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The Dream Engine
A Personal Memoir by Bob Sather
I was in the cast of the New York production of the
Dream Engine - the one that was commissioned and rehearsed but never
performed - but that's another story. The Amherst production I
merely attended, and I knew most of the participants. Stein was a
familiar acquaintance; he also scored a student production of a
musical of 'The Good Woman of Szechuan' by Brecht, (in which I
played a Chinese god.) Everyone knew Steiny. He was part of a tight
network of theatre and musical people at Amherst, Smith and Mt
Holyoke colleges, some of whom have gone on to excellent careers in
acting and dance. I remember Stein as a creative wisecracker, full
of spontaneous wit. ("My mother had Indian blood on her side...
but she wiped it off.") One time at dinner, we were talking
about Tony Harrison, a visiting British Poet-in-Residence. Stein
spontaneously invented and recited a fairly good long poem,
impromptu, which accurately parodied Tony's style. We applauded.
Stein had a nasal, rather thin voice (unlike his full singing
voice), with a sly delivery laced with giggles and a perpetual grin.
He was attractively skinny and small, with black hair to his
shoulders.
By the way, in all this I should give great credit
to Barry Keating, the student who directed The Dream Engine. Keating
played Ezra Pound to Steiny's T S Eliot: he took the huge,
unstageable script Stein wrote, drastically edited it, and turned it
into a brilliant and effective play. He was an excellent, energetic,
highly creative director and actor, and deserves equal billing with
Steinman for The Dream Engine. (Barry has gone on to a highly
visible career on the New York stage, where he has written/directed
a number of award-winning musicals.)
Barry Keating and Ellen Parks gave performances of a
rare and wonderful quality in the Dream Engine. Barry was bitterly,
hysterically cynical to the power of ten, and Ellen, as The Girl,
created a weirdly intense combination of bruised innocence
("soft clay") and passionate, bewildered anger. Ellen had
a capacity to immerse herself in a role and let her personality be
taken over by it, more than any actor I've known. (Regrettably,
Ellen no longer acts. She runs a casting agency in New York.)
This was a period of radical experimentation in
theatre: our theatrical precepts were those of Berthold Brecht, the
Living Theatre of New York, and Antonin Artaud's Theatre of Cruelty.
Peter Hall was doing his best work at the time. The Dream Engine
used ideas that were considered new and radical in theatre: rock
music, improvisational movement, hippies as heroes, polymorphous
sexuality, nudity, actors invading the audience. Rehearsals were
great fun. A lot of time was spent in emotional and physical
exercises, to relax our inhibitions and bond us into a group. On a
typical day Barry led us in stretching and tumbling, and then he led
a series of shouting and screaming excercises. Then each actor had
to improvise a scene with Steinman, in which he or she would try to
convince Jim to admit him to the Tribe. Jim was brilliant at finding
a new and funny way to refuse each plea.
The plot was roughly "Charles Manson - the
Musical", although without the evil of the real Manson. (The
Dream Engine actually preceded the Manson killings by a few months:
a very weird prescience on Steinman's part.) A group of runaway
young people meld themselves into a Tribe, reveling in excess and
animal physicality, in a remote part of California. Their leader is
a charismatic, amoral poet named Baal (played by Stein). Eventually
the wicked forces of the city try to find and destroy them. The
Tribe return to the city and burn it. At the end everyone is dead, a
pile of bodies, except for Baal.
At the time, I was very much part of the
counterculture. I had left Amherst College because of the draft. I
had finished my Conscientious Objector work and I was living in
Boston, dealing, and hitchhiking to Amherst to participate in the
anti-war movement there. The times were turbulent, angry, and doomy.
American society seemed more polarized than at any time in living
memory, between the pro- and anti-war factions; between blacks and
whites; between the alienated and the powerful. Many people talked
seriously about revolution.
Like many people who lived through the repressive
Fifties, I had a poor appreciation of my own emotions, and I was
trying to use drugs and mysticism to develop an awareness of my own
interior life. The anti-war movement was an outlet for my own
feelings of anger against authority and sexual/emotional
frustration. (Not to trivialise the anti-war movement: the movement
was also morally correct, and ultimately successful.) I was an
academic at heart, and my tendency was to analyze and rationalise
everything rather than to just feel it. I know that I was just
ordinary in all this: I was sharing this experience with a large
part of my generation.
The Dream Engine was an antidote to that emotional
blockage. It was intuitive, sexy, violent, exultant, irrational,
angry, funny, despairing, and triumphant by turns. It crystallised
and expressed the feelings that I/we had but could not voice. It was
perfectly in tune with the times (unlike, say, 'Hair', whose flower
children were already out of date.) I won't say that it changed my
life, or changed history; better to say that the Dream Engine was a
perfect expression of the times and of our lives. It had nothing to
do with a political program (Steinman has always been profoundly
apolitical). It was a creative emotional expression of collective
unconscious awareness, speaking and singing through Steinman.
Stein has said that he doesn't so much invent songs,
as that he listens to the world around him and it speaks through
him; and I can vouch that it is true of the Dream Engine, and the
world in which it was born. The Dream Engine enriched the complex
efflorescence of the late Sixties with another bloom, a brilliant
musical expression of our common experience.
Bob Sather
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Reaction To The Dream Engine
From
A Tribe Of Steinmaniacs
Dream Engine is probably one of the best and most
different Plays of it's, this and any time. The songs are
astounding. The story is great. All in all it is work of pure
genius, and a great place to hear early works of the greatest
writer/composer of all time, including songs that were later
developed for other singers. (ie. Bonnie tyler, Meatloaf) Jim
Steinman never ceases too amaze me,it is a must see for any Steinfan.
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I'm speaking as one who has only ever read the
transcripts (I want to hear the music OH SO BADLY!), but I think
Dream Engine is a work of pure, absolute, and utter genius. It
starts out so bizarre that you just have to keep on reading (that
historian-narrator dude is just psychotic enough to catch the
attention of weird people like me; and is it just me, or does his
twitching vein make everything that much more real?), and by the
time you're through with the first few verses in Invocation and
Formation of the Tribe ... completely caught. These are some of
Steinman's best lyrics. I mean ever. They seem to have more of a
focus than his other stuff, and the images they bring to mind are
both psychotic and beautiful, and real on top of all of that. I
love how the dialogue exchanges in here work! They're so
tightly woven together it's
IMPOSSIBLE to stop until the pace has at least tried to slow down,
but it never does. And Baal is like the perfect character (and I am
so, like, talking like a teen ... like); he seems very
vampiric to me in the way he
presents himself, and that is a great compliment.
Another thing I love about Dream Engine is how its so self-referential.
It keeps drawing the important points back by repeating certain
lines throughout. This thing is so beautifully, eroticly (I can't
spell!) charged that it's just ...
I'm not sure if there are words for it. AND
I HAVEN'T HEARD THE MUSIC YET!!!!!!!!!!
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I can understand that people were amazed by this at
Amherst in '69, it's incredibly provocative and outrageous in its
images, language and form.
Parts of the soundtrack must be some of the heaviest
played in a theatre ever, and definitely the rawest and loudest
played in any theatre at the time.
I can't say I know very well how hardrock was
sounding at the time, but as far as I know, heavy metal didn't
really become "mainstream" until the early 70's, and
considering that, I'd almost like to say that the music was almost
"pioneering"!
Fresh or not, the music must absolutely be some of
the heaviest that was played at the time, and that in a place where
strings normally hang out!
That being said, I'm not surprised that Jim wrote a
lot of his music in the late 60's.
Composing has a lot to do with inspiration, and as a
teenager, your world, body and entire existence is under a constant
change, which are all major inspirations for a writer.
Your feelings are also very strong and true during
this time, and good creative work "feels" as well as
sounds good.
"Dream Engine" shows the potential of what
would become one of the greatest, yet unrecognized by the masses,
writers of the 20:th century.
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Oh, God, where do I begin? Just thinking of this has
gotten all my thoughts sort of entangled in my head and I don't
really know where any of the ends are... I mean, I don't even know
if I can explain what I felt the first time I heard tDE... in a way,
it was that feeling (which has now, after so many years "with
Jim", started to feel familiar) of being understood. It felt
like someone out there knows how I felt and feel, what it's like to
be somewhat of an outcast but still be the one on top of things. I
mean (someone please kill me if I use that phrase again), Baal is
very much of an outcast but he's never subservient or obsequious or
anything, pretty much like me when I was a kid. I was weird to the
other girls; I had much bigger visions and dreams and was far more
dramatic, more rebellious, and they didn't like me one bit, but I
never felt as if though there was something wrong with me. Instead,
I thought they were plain idiots and knew that it was them who were
missing something. I guess The Dream Engine reminds me a lot of
myself when I was a kid.
Also, I always had (and still have) this need to
"break free" or whatever we shall call it, and it reminds
me so much of how I sometimes want to just leave everything and live
out in the woods near the ocean for a while and just become one with
the world. I want to escape The City! :)
Then, to try and avoid any more nostalgia, we have
the music... the words... I never dreamt anyone could capture such
energy, such anger, such humour, such velocity, such sexuality and
sensuality, such profoundness and wit and intelligence in a play! I
really understand Jim when he says that he thinks he's a better
actor than singer (not that I think he sucks at either artform),
because if you listen to those cd's, Jim really, really means every
word of it. He's really in it, and that's part of what makes it so
easy to get.
There is also this certain kind of magic about it
considering that this was wayyy before Jim turned into a well-known
composer! I remember when I first heard about tDE, and I got so
feverishly obsessed with owning this piece! I mean, this is actually
like a part of his life before "Bat"! It was like
something in me finally found it's place, and it felt like "oh,
God, he didn't just turn a genius over night- he was really born
this way!!!!" It's not a good explanation, but it's probably
the best I can give. I love this musical, I really do. I think it's
an astonishing piece of work and a treasure to have, and if I had
such narrative skills as some people here, like Moco and Melody
have, I'd probably be able to come up with so much more and better
stuff.
But this is why I love it!
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The Dream Engine is the spark that ignited the fire
that lit the way along Jim Steinman's journey to musical godliness.
What it lacks in musical and lyrical maturity, it more than makes up
for with its intriguing (though sometimes perplexing) characters,
dialogue that is itself music to the ears, and enough inspiration to
fuel an entire career.
"And after that, how soon before you find
yourself trapped in a business suit...a prisoner in your own nightly
bath, with pink soap balls for eyes, and nothing to see, and no
reason to try. The perfect American marriage, perhaps: the vegetable
husband and his vegetarian wife! SHUT UP! An empty shell, nothing
more, a shell, in which you can't even hear the ocean, no matter how
hard you try, no matter how close to your ear. An empty
shell..."
In these few lines, Steinman demonstrates all at
once his ability to magically string words together into a
beautifully rhythmic sequence of sounds, his ability to use words to
create a powerful visual image, and his noteworthy sense of humor.
And what is truly incredible is that the same could be said about
almost any passage in "The Dream Engine."
It is amazing to hear what a young Jim Steinman was
capable of when given complete control of a musical, to perceive how
much he has continued to grow artistically, and to imagine the
wonder of a new all-Steinman musical.
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Not only is THE DREAM ENGINE ingenious, erotic,
inventive, beautiful, sparse, thought-provoking, powerful, dangerous
and awe-inspiring but it is also a pathway into the mind of our
lord, Jim Steinman.
His political views, his views of sexuality, his
views of love, race, religion, war, death, peace, and violence
converge forming an orgy of feelings....
Feelings of longing, doubt, fearfullness,
fearlessness, lust, hate....all in one word are expressed....WHICH
word?
The word that speaks most to you.....
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Erotic, imaginative, seductive, sensual, lewd,
lascivious, delicious, and thrilling are only a few of the words
that describe the masterpiece that began it all. Although the music
is far less superb in this musical than his future creations, Jim's
dialogue is nothing short of genius. Example, absolutely the most
humerous and fantastically creative scene:
GIRL: What do you want to know?
BAAL: Well... [slowly] are you... [then rapid-fire]
anal, rectal, vaginal, oral, genital bestial, hetero, homo, bi-,
tri-, quatre-, cinq, six, sick, lonely, desperate, monolingual,
bilingual, cunnilingual, passionate, poetic, hallucinogenic,
barbarian, Cesarean, mammalian, cornucopian, horn of plenty, plenty
horny...??
GIRL: ALL RIGHT! Stop! What do you want me to say!?
BAAL: ALL OF THEM!!
GIRL: Yes, I'm all of them, I'm everything you want!
BAAL: Aren't you exhausted?
GIRL: Yes. Very.
BAAL: How do you like it out here?
GIRL: It's very lovely.
BAAL: On a clear night you can see the labia
minor.
Steinman's use of language is incredible and proves
him to be a true artist. The music is definitely "primitive
Steinman," but I highly enjoy hearing familiar riffs and
lyrics! Baal is the most interesting character ever created.....
:::bows down:::
Steinman shall forever be my Dream Engineer.
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It's interesting, Jackie, that you should ask for
this at a time when US television seems to be obsessed with the
'70's. I reread the transcript of "The Dream Engine" and
was struck by the anti-establishment nature of it. Just about a year
after "The Dream Engine" was first performed, college
students were being shot by the Maxes and Emilys of the National
Guard. Young people were legally protesting against authority and
were such a threat that they had to be killed. That, plus the way
that much of the music Steinman wrote then and in the next 5 or so
years after that are still being used to great effect in "Tanz
der Vampire," make me feel very strongly that he was ahead of
his time.
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The quality I find most appealing about Dream Engine
is the author's ability to illicit a response from the
audience/reader. While reading Dream Engine, I found myself being
afraid, aroused, angered, delighted, tickled, nervous, agitated,
startled, all the while a deep seated hunger stirring my soul. It's
apparent that the author, crafted by his own philosophies amassed
through personal experiences, has a strong opinion of the world he
has created as well as the world around him. The duality speaks to
everyone. Not just the insane, not just the conservative, BUT
EVERYONE. This universal language continues to be communicated in
present day through Jim's music, lyrics and compositions. Jim has
mastered the craft of making another person (or person's) see, hear,
feel, taste, and smell what lies between his ears. What's more, his
brutal honesty has the listener begging to be involved in some
manner.
THAT is pure brilliance.
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>>> This universal language continues to be
communicated in present day through Jim's music, lyrics and
compositions. Jim has mastered the craft of making another person
(or person's) see, hear, feel, taste, and smell what lies between
his ears. What's more, his brutal honesty has the listener begging
to be involved in some manner.
THAT is pure brilliance.>>>
I do and I don't agree with this incredible, dare I
say "INTENSE" (Hey Princess) review. I find Jim to be more
of an enigma for people. I think few would say that his words, his
music, his vision speak for them. I have met more people than not
who were totally turned off by Jim's style, his approach, his
vision.
That almost negates the "universal appeal"
idea. Yes, I fall under the category of the listener you described
above, as do most of us here on thislist...but more often than not,
the people who I introduce my "Steinstuff" to are not
amused, excited, or interested.
Now, I will give you this...That, in and of itself,
is a response...therefore, Jim is successful.
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The Dream Engine holds a significant place in
theatre history. It is one of the few rock operas (musicals, epics,
odysseys) written pre-Jesus Christ Superstar. It has a classic Greek
feeling to it, the Everyman yearning to break free and express
himself. It's a "self-aware" play - the characters are
aware they are in a play, they speak to the audience, there is no
fourth wall. There is a wonderful rapid-fire give and take of
dialogue much like fellow absurdists Ionesco and Beckett. The other
major influence I feel is the darkly comic deranged Cabaret mood of
Brecht and Weill. The Entre-acte is as pretty as anything Jim has
written. It's such a complex, satirical, hilarious, haunting,
in-your-face piece it's really hard to believe that all the
teacher's that gave it an "F" weren't actually laughing
and enjoying themselves at the show! You can hear on the CD that the
audience is really having a good
time. I think it's a major work from a 19 year old (no offense 19
year-olds!). I'm grateful for the opportunity to experience
it.
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Now that there was some negative reaction to the
Dream Engine, I'd like to say something too. When I first heard the
Dream Engine, I thought there was too much talk and too little
music. I prefer musicals with little or no talk, such as Tanz. Now I
do understand that the dialogue probably couldn't have been sung.
But I still think that Historian's monologue in the beginning is too
long. I think the spoken parts are brilliant but I often listen just
to the songs. There's also another thing I sometimes like in the
Dream Engine and sometimes don't: Unlike Jim's later work, it's not
very romantic or emotional. Because of that I maybe like Neverland
better. But these were only small things in a brilliant piece of
work.
Angie said that she doesn't understand the Dream
Engine. I don't have difficulties understanding most of it though I
wasn't born yet when it was written. Although I'm some kind of
hippie and in love with the 60's, I probably I don't understand some
of the references to 60's political situations and such things. And
English isn't my first language so because of that I probably don't
understand some things. But despite that I enjoy it a lot. It's the
same thing with Shakespeare who Angie mentioned. I can't understand
all of his references to things that happened in the 16th and 17th
centuries. But despite that Shakespeare is one of my favorite
authors, and I really love such plays as A Midsummer Night's Dream
and Romeo and Juliet. And I love some plays by Euripides who lived
2500 years ago. The Dream Engine and Shakespeare's and Euripides's
plays are much more than just references to things that happened a
long time ago.
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Every boy in the loft thinks pacificism is best left
to salt water fish. You should hear them whooping. (You're a
codfish!)
<< "America.. how could you be reduced to
ashes and yet never have been burnt?" >>
hairspray on a wall doesn't leave any ashes...
<< How do you have a funeral for something
abstract? I think its important that somewhere near the end, when
Baal is defeated that he says something about "drink from my
skull," though I don't know exactly where it fits.
>>
I wish I'd majored in English but I had a minor
distraction in my cock. <sigh> I'm not up to talking about
symbolism & shit, because something that hard you put into
action, not words. Trust me, if I were up to explaining my country's
skull, I would. "Once upon a time there was a boy who hunted
all the beautiful people and kept their heads in his bed with him,
so he'd never be alone. He used to kiss them at night, and sing them
songs, and gibber madly as he licked their blood." This has
something to do with it, if I could just remember what.
<< However, to answer the last question, the
revolution that Baal is doing is bad. >>
bladubagraerpt??
<< He means well, he wants to change things,
but violence is never the answer. >>
Pop Quiz--answers at bottom.
Q: What's Ghandi always preaching against?
A: ________________*
Q: What rhymes with mints and involves guns?
A: _________________*
Q: Feminists preach that rape is not about sex, but
about what?
A: _________________*
Q: And what exactly does Jim want to do with his
guitar?
A: Lotsa real sexy ________________*
heheh
<< As smart as he is, he doesn't know how to
change the world--so he rages against it. >>
(intro power chords)
<< The universe is too big to fight against
though, so he fails. >>
define failure?
<< The historian understands the rage,
>>
damn ketchup bottle! smack-wham-bang!!!!!
<< and understands that although Baal has
lost, he will find a different way (perhaps a non-violent way) and
make his change. >>
Have you forgotten Neverland? You don't want to see
Baal after he "changes" to a different way....
"Always, Emily. Always..." I'd rather see change at the
end of a blood splattered guitar than in a doctor's needleprick.
<< "Give them time" he says, like an
all knowing father figure. >>
He can't even upen a bottle of Heinz-57 without
getting violent!!!! HE threatens the whole fucking audience for
breathing too loudly!! What the fucking hell is so all-knowing
about... oh wait, you're right. Violence *IS* the answer!
<< I don't think Jim likes violence.
>>
So... I SMASHED it against the wall! I smashed it
against the floor! I smashed it against the...ooooohhh.... varsity
cheerleaders...yummy.....
<< Otherwise, why would he be fighting so
fiercely against the war in Vietnam? >>
"There's a world of difference between killing
someone else's children and killing your own parents who've fucked
you every day of your life. There's a world of difference between
travelling across the world to burn napalm forests and burning your
own prison cell. You have no right to hunt down someone else's
fallen angels, but your demons are yours to kill." -B (but I
translated it into English)
<< He wants
the battle "at home, where we can keep an eye on it" if it
must be waged. In fact, the narrator--who is suppose to tell us what
is right-- >>
ohmigod you've got issues. You think the *Historian*
knows what's right? "Don't let it fool you, shitholes!"
<< basically sneers at Baal. "Mescaline
cowboys indeed" >>
hey!
<< he says flipantly. And the last lines are a
plea to "make our cemetaries safe for our children" a plea
not to let any more of our youth's get wasted ;-) >>
no.... he's paraphrasing city-feel... The City would
rather see their children safely buried than to risk their finding
freedom. "I'd rather have my children die for me..we had to
bring you back, too far down, deep end...someday you'll understand,
we're only trying to help you." And then it's the drugs, and
the "pieces of food" and the "cheeseburgers" and
the aversion shock therapy and the ass probes and the asylum and The
Pit and the needles and then they're burning you on a fifty foot
neon cross to save your soul! Hallelujah motherfuckers!!!!!!!!
Now, the *revolution* is bad?
Since when has carrying signs worked? Or going on
hunger strikes (as if Lost Boys could lose anymore weight!
"There are always bones in the cars on the highway but there's
never any food")... or political lobbying shiftshaft (lobby
with bombs, motherfucker! FIRE!)... every damn hippie wears a
business suit now, or a tombstone. Make your choice, and hallalujah...
Anarchy now, there is no reason why! Fag &
company
* and the answer is: VIOLENCE!
* and the answer is: VIOLENCE!
* and the answer is: VIOLENCE!
* and the answer is: VIOLENCE!
Score:
4 out of 4: You can either read, or you're a Lost
Boy.
3/4: Well, maybe you said "power" or
"music" instead of "violence" for numbers 3 or
4.... well, they're the same thing...
2/4: You're a stubborn ass, aren't you?
1/4: Can you at least rhyme? columbine? 'bout time?
canine? shoe-shine two-time lick mine sixty-nine!
0/4: Grown-Up! Grown-up! Grown-up!
(Grown-ups kill me... I kill Grown-ups too! KILL THE
LAWYER! KILL THE LAWYER!)
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>> NILS had Dream Engine Questions:
First, I read the "biography" about Jim on
Steen's Website. This biograpy says about the Dream Engine was
"about a conspiracy by the government to control the nation's
youth by drugging them and controlling their emotions". I must
admit that I don't actually notice much of that in the piece.
>>
Outta curiousity-killed-the-cat, did he write the
bio before he heard Dream Engine? Because while I think there's a
lot of that in Dream Engine, most people wouldn't. But if you'd just
heard Neverland...It is a lot more obvious. But the governmental
structure in the two is pretty much the same. Bones calls it a
City-State and goes on for hours about the old Greek Metropolis
whenever we talk about it. Any City that's carrying Assasins of the
Young on their payroll, including Cleveland, is by default trying to
control their emotions, and anytime you've got a Dr. Rosenbloom or
Dr. Hook or Dr. Mengele or any other such, you've automatically got
a City controlling the youth by drugging them.
(Luckily we don't do that here in America. Excuse me
for a second, I have to yell at my loftmate: "Damn it, Nate,
take your Thorazine or we're all going to regret it in the
morning!" Now, as I was saying...)
You're right, they don't mention the Asylum, per se,
in Dream Engine. But they have Dr. Rosenbloom, and at a guess the
staging makes it even more obvious. Besides, Killer Nuns
automatically implies both repression and LOTS OF DRUGS...at least
to my mind.
>> Of course it's about the youth fighting
against the government, >>
and vice-versa
>> I think that the bio mixed some things up.
I think in Neverland the youth is being drugged in order to prevent
them from dreaming and developing strange ideas. But I don't see
that happening in TDE. Any thoughts on that? >>
I think the big difference is that in Neverland a
lot of the focus goes into the surroundings, into the plot elements
and the politics of the story. People stay themselves, and we find
out how Max can be himself and the "good doctor" and Emily
is an Assassin and a Religious Leaderette, etc, and why they care so
much about Wendy-Girl. But in TDE it's more inside-focused, the plot
and the reason why isn't so important as the revolution itself, even
though it still comes through (chromosone damage, and the talk of
genetics).
The Asylum's still there, the drugs are still there
masquerading as Cheeseburgers "a piece of fooooooodd...",
and the whole futuristic shitholeplace is the same, just everyone's
sharing an hallucination of being back in the green-old-days and
have something small enough to fight and win that maybe it'll work
and there're still actually a buffallo or two left to die.
-B- says, "that's beautiful, Fag" If he's
going to sit here being so disaparaging I don't no why he doesn't
just write it himself. Oh, wait... nevermind.
>>I'm catholic, and I didn't pick that up...
but "passion" >>seems a >>>good description
for ANY Steinman work, play or otherwise... :-) >>
Well, there's like this part in Dream Engine where
baal is strung up on a glowing neon cross being tortured by nuns, I
mean, that's kinda like a passion play, especially with all their
talk about the last supper, and then there's the talk about
his blood being pure energy, which is kinda messianic.
>>That's cool! But how d'you know that's
what's happening? >>
Um... I guess I might have imagined the glowing neon
bit. Everyone keeps telling me there was NOT a flashing neon
cross....um...That's always just the way I imagined it in me head,
youknow? Though I checked out the official blocking on
dreampollution and it says:
"Baal is strung up like a piece of meat....in a
parody of a bizarre religious ritual.... Baal is tied up, crucified,
in the center of the stage"
which means there at elast had to be a cross, neon
or not...right? but I swear, I *saw* it and it was this fucking big
neon cross. maybe dreaming.
>> masochistic and objectifying women
>>
Well, yeah, of course it's masochistic.
>>ooops! I got mixed up. I meant misogynistic.
And this is a "uni feminist" pov, not really mine, but I
brought it up 'cos it was the only negative perspective I could
think of >>
I can think of more... how's the "socially
irresponsible" crowd cumming? I mean, really, encouraging
revolution! how like, UN-GHANDI!
>>Maybe... the Historian seems kinda sad
sometimes, almost empathetic... >>
Once I was in love with a lake....
>>Sometimes we think he's a part of Baal's
psyche, one of his hallucinations. >>
Maybe they all are?
All the lost boys? maybe. that's kinda a really cool
idea. so, like, Dream Engine is an entirely psychosomatic
revolution, and everyone in it is a figgerment of Baal's
imagination?
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This show has no limits. I find the Dream Engine to
be a very original, extreme, honest piece, and if nothing else,
intriguing. It's truly an intense vision and unlike anything I've
ever seen or heard before. After the first listening I found it
disturbing somehow, maybe because of its emotional explicitness,
maybe because so many ideas and emotions are thrown forth all at
once. It's hypnotic and erotic and funny and powerful, and it can
also be disturbing because of its honesty and rawness.
The Dream Engine exposes a lot about the late 60s, a
time I like to think I understand but also an era I can't really
identify with. I guess the show is a real product of its time
(combined with a great big dose of Steinman philosophy), although
like all good theatre, there are themes that transcend time. It
must've been very in tune with everything that was happening in 1969
while also being very revolutionary and innovative.
I usually prefer sung-through shows and had
originally wondered if there would be more music in the Dream Engine
than there actually was. But in this show, the spoken word isn't
boring or unexpressive at all; it's invigorating and helps set the
tone for the piece. Jim Steinman's performance was amazing and very
felt, and Baal's character is a great creation.
Overall, the Dream Engine gives a lot of key insight
into the World of Steinman and how it all began. This show has
awakened a certain part of me and changed me on both a personal and
theatrical level. The images and raw poignancy of the Dream Engine
make the show astounding, and it is truly one of the most inspired
pieces of theatre I've ever known.
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I have a problem with listening to musicals when I
haven't seen it staged. I suffered with both Whistle and Tanz when I
heard them, not just because the former uses those 'dodgy' accents
that have been discussed at length and the latter is in German, but
because I have trouble visualising what's going on. A musical is a
visual as well as aural experience in my opinion, to take away one
of these two is taking away half of the performance. Imagine seeing
Tanz with no sound, it wouldn't work would it? I can only see that
working if it happens to be 'The Sound Of Music' that you're
watching. Anyway I digress.
Visualisation is very important to me (call it a
lack of imagination if you will). When I first heard The Dream
Engine I found it very heavy going. The going eased when I read the
transcript whilst listening to it a second time.
I understood most of the symbolism (Youth Vs Old,
Battle against the establishment etc etc) and also roughly how it
fitted into the political history of the time.
The songs are good in most cases, and brilliant in
those cases where they aren't good. But as a 'whole piece of art' I
do struggle to appreciate it.
I tend now to listen to it rarely, and when I do
it's generally only the songs I listen to, skipping the dialogue
parts.
I know that The Dream Engine is a visionary piece of
work, with many songs reappearing in Jims more commercially
successful projects. (I know also that commercial success isn't a
very good yardstick to measure by, but hey what the hell!), I know
that many people class it as Jims finest piece of work. But I can't
agree with them on that.
There's potential within it, as we've seen since
with Bat Out Of Hell, Bad For Good, Pandoras Box et al.
It's good, I found it interesting to listen to, but
no matter how much I would like to I can't rave about it.
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Mutate NOW... all right, here's the thing.
first, I live right around the corner from Kent State, practically,
and you can still hear the distant thunder of flags through the
apathy. it's funny, though, that the most famous martyr was an ROTC
scholar? history makes due. (for you frenchies on the list,
rotc scholars are on military rides) soap.
and thanks, bobboy, for the history. rilly.
but
IT DON'T MATTER!!!
here's the thing, Dream Engine is totally TODAY. I
could off the top of my head list, like, fifty ways that it still
matters. so the names have changed, and it's "William Cigarbox
Clinton" now, and you haven't got the cool 69ers pun. but the
revolution stil brews.
may I point out Columbine? go go lost boys. now
point that gun a little to your right and shoot the teachers,
k?
may I point out the protests in seattle and d.c.
that ended just this year in tear gas and billy clubs? or the little
boy being sent back to a country his mother died trying to escape?
land of the free ride to jail and home of the brave billy gun!
may i point out that America has less than a fifth
of the worlds population and more than a quarter of its prison
population? that Amnesty International found nearly as many human
rights abuses here as in red china?
may i point out that if a child is raped or beaten
by a stranger, the pedophile might be punished... but if the child's
trusted parent does the same damn thing, everyone will scream about
parents rights and put the kid back in their father's arms and
crotch within a week. it always hurts more when it's a strangers
cock, i guess....
may i point out that one of the ten leading reasons
given in anonymous polls of women who had abortions is that the
child was the wrong gender? or had a handicap? damn the
mutants!
may i point out matthew scarecrow sheperd?
may i point out that in the aftermath of columbine,
schools across the nations cracked down on their wierdos? you could
get suspended for wearing black. i had a friend kicked out for
wearing a shirt that said "mean people suck"... students
were randomly given full body cavity searches for wearing goth
make-up. if you wrote depressed poetry, you got mandatory
counseling. my boy OO got himself called down to the counselors
every day during the semester for counseling for not saying he loved
his school and country. one of my flatmates got himself kicked out
of school for fraternizing with dissidents: he turned them in for
bringing guns to school, and got suspended for knowing about
it!
may i point out the bruises on the faces of children
who have confessed in interrogation to planning to blow up their
schools? (the school in which you learn will be the fire in which
you burn!)
may i point out that the war on drugs has become a
war on the dissident? if they catch you with drugs and charge you
with a felony, you'll never have the right to vote in America
again...
may i point out mumia abu-jamal?
may i point out that every major dictator in south
america was placed there by the american government and every right
wing extremist on that continent was trained in the school of the
americas?
may i point out that medicine to fight aids are
denied to poor african countries because only faggots catch hiv
here?
may i point out the fires in waco that killed a
commune full of children? does ruby ridge ring a bell?
may i point out the prevalence of drugs in our
schools? Ritalin, prozac, zoloft, thorazine... there's a drug for
every ideal! did you know they now have prozac for puppies?
may i point out the video surveillance cameras on
every corner, the worldwide phone taps to check for 'terrorists'?
did you know your entire life is in a file already?
may i point out that nuclear waste is being buried
beneath the western deserts that has a half life of a 1,000,000,
years...and is stored in barrels that will corrode in 50? may i
point out that the inescapable pollution of the cities have caused
cancer rates to skyrocket in the inner city?
may i point out the genetic tests that are turning
mice into men and pig hearts into human?
may i point out that anal and oral sex are still
jailable offenses in half the states in america? that you can be
arrested for kissing your same sex lover in public? (i should
know!)
may i point out that america is one of the last
countries in the world to still keep a "territory" that
wants its independence we promised it a hundred years ago?
may i point out the continued military interference
in countries that don't want our "help"? Clinton is a
terrorist in Iraq... excuse me, but whose rights are we protecting
by bombing them? did you know that right now it's illegal to import
plastics to iraq that are needed for oxygen tents? or needles for
diabetics? or pencils and paper for school children? or books? or
sugar? or surgical tape? half of the chemicals needed for water
purification can't be imported because they could be used to make
low grade explosives.... and we've bombed their water systems till
they literally drink their own shit. I am the Americong!
may i point out that in the history of the west,
every thirty years a new revolution brews, and we're long
overdue?
if dream engine doesn't ring a bell in america, it's
not the fault of the political situation. it's the fucking fault of
a drugged up and dragged under WE THE PEOPLE who haven't been
willing to go dancing naked in the streets! fucking mutate now! feel
the revolution! The Dream Engine is still rolling!
so, change teh names, and teh dates, and start
listening... the city is sitll trying to eat you all alive, you
know. it's even bigger than it was thirty years ago... and its
FUCKING WINNING!!!
FIGHT BACK! FIGHT BACK! FIGHT FUCKING BACK!
The second holocaust is still coming....
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What is the Dream Engine? Is it an attempt merely to
piss off a bunch of adults by a young college student who would one
day grow up to work with the likes of a guy who likes to be called
Meatloaf? Or is there some deep message, like Shakespeare, that a
reader or listener can obtain through dissection of every line and
verse. I do not like taking things that I enjoy and trying to study
them too intensely, for they often times don't stand up too well to
annalysis. However, the Dream Engine is one of those things which
begs for a closer look. For Jim was most definately trying to say
something, we just have to figure out what it is. Ah yes, I have it:
vaseline is no cure for cancer. Although the historian says this
very sarcastically, let's start with this as our first attempt at a
"message." With this line, Jim is telling us that people
sometimes get screwed and sugar coating it isn't going to help. If
this is the point, who is it who's getting screwed in the Dream
Engine? Baal and his followers seem to think that they're getting a
rough deal and leave the city. They, like Peter Pan, are the sort
who will never grow up. Why did they leave the city? Because to live
in the city might entail them having to go off to fight in "the
war." Or perhaps its the entire population of the city who's
getting screwed. Max and Emily and the secret police killer nuns
don't exactly seem like the most efficient government system ever
developed. Things are definately not right in the city. The test
tubes are starting to bleed. The mutants are fighting back. And the
freaks are starting to really act like freaks. Perhaps the city has
a cancer? The cure then, is purification through fire, which Baal
brings. A rough cure indeed--and vaseline ain't gonna help you feel
better. Let's look at the war angle for a second though... obviously
the Vietnam war is going on at this time, and obviously Jim is
against it. In fact, Jim's contributed a lot of musical work to
movies/musicals that have an anti-war theme to them (such as More
Than You Deserve, A Small Circle of Friends, Rude Awakening, ect.).
It is hard, with hindsight, to justify America getting involved with
a war that was not our business in the first place, nor a war that
was winnable (and yes, I do know all about the idea behind it--to
stop the spread of Communism, the policy of containment, blah blah
blah). The last draw was drafting the youth though. Imagine that. A
lot of the members of this list are just barely over 18. Can you
imagine getting a piece of paper in the mail one day saying that you
had to report for duty to learn how to kill so you could be sent off
to a foreign country, where its hard to tell friend from foe because
they all look alike, and where if you don't get killed by bullets,
you'll get killed by disease? This was the world Jim was living in.
If Jim hadn't been in college at the time (and if the Dream Engine
wasn't the success it was, he probably wouldn't have been in
college, his grades were horribly low) then Jim himself was in great
danger of being drafted. So, yes, Jim is pissed off at the war. Yes,
he's pissed off at the government. Nixon and J. Edgar Hoover
are the mortal enemy. "Our insanity is the greastest insult we
can give a world whose mental helath can be measured in uniformed
corpses and packaged decay" he tells us. But it goes deeper
than Vietnam as well. Jim taps into all the wrongs that the
government has have done. How it has wronged the Indian tribes that
once lived here, bombed Hiroshima with a nuclear blast that will
damage the decendants well past the day when all of us are dust, and
then named the streest after the very murderes who commit the
crimes. He does this without the whining noise that will come from
the "other Baal" in Neverland. Jim's Baal is angry, a
rebel 'with' a cause, and knows his power. He's righteous and noble,
and yet... yet, he's just a 19 year old boy. The country has made
him think like a man. He should be worried more about using the 36
positions he's learned (82 if two are involved). He's lost faith in
God, and made himself a God. Not a bad idea, but not a great career
choise for a youth. Gods tend to die poorly in the end. And Baal
does die in the end, though some may disagree with this point. He
dies along with the girl in a heap of bodies fighting, ironically,
against the idea of fighting. Somewhere along the way he lost focus,
lost touch with what he was protesting against. Perhaps though
things are different in the city now. Perhaps somehow, through this
battle, things are better. We don't know. Jim doesn't tell us.
Frankly, I don't think they are. And yet there's that line. That
line that echoes through out the musical over and over again.
"How do you bury the skull of your country?" What does it
mean? Is it that America is dead, and that the head (ie, the
government) needs to be buried? I don't think that's quite the right
metaphor, for althogh Baal would love to get rid of the government,
America isn't dead. It's still that "secret land, as yet
undiscovered by anyone." I've played around witht the thought
and come up with this, although it might change tommorow: the line
is about shame. Yes, that's it. Shame. Things are going wrong in
America at this time. The Vietnam war should make people ashamed,
along ith all the other wrongs that America has done in the past.
The historian remarks at the end, after describing
protestors running in the streets from tanks, beaten to death by
clubs. This--and nothing less, he tells us, is how you busy the
skull of your country. Notice
in that description of "the hunt" that the protestors are
not fighting back.
They're being slaughtered, beaten, and ultimately, killed, yet
they're not fighting back. Their protests are non-violent ones, as
Baal's should be, that fails. And if anyone thinks that violent
revolt does work, let's just examine the way that African Americans
got the rights they did--it wasn't the Black Panthers or the
extremists, who proclaimed that they would get what they wanted
"by any means neccissary." Instead, it was the non-violent
protestors like Martin Luther King, and the many who stood up for
what they believed for in court, or sat where they wanted to on a
bus, or took their hard money elsewhere to a restraunt that wasn't
color coded. Jim would have known about this, these events were
happening in his time, even if equality itself hadn't fully been
won. And I don't believe that he was a racist either, even if we do
hear the word "nigger" used in several places, or a call
of "fuck the Jews" (Jim being Jewish after all). You can
hear black voices in the musical as well as white. There was a lot
to stand up and fight for back in those days. The brave people were
those who stood up for what they believed for and did. I wonder at
times what Baal's plan would have been if he had fully succeeded and
he had taken over the city. Would he have set himself up a ruler
over his new "kingdom come?" Some how I can't see that, it
would be too grown up. He rules his pack through religious devotion
and ceremony--easy in small groups, but impossible in something as
large as a city. He couldn't turn them all into tribe memebers
either, otherwise hundreds of those who are unable to live outside
the city would die, and he'd be just as guilty as all the
"rapists and murderers" he lists at the end of the play.
So if Baal didn't run the city, it would be just a changing of
figure heads, another man (or woman) doing the same damn thing as
before. Like I said earlier. I've strayed from my point. I do that
sometimes. It's expected of me though. And I always do what's
expected of me. That's howcome I've lived so long. The point. Yes,
that's what I was talking about. What is it? Is there any? Yes? No?
Yes? I believe there is a point. And I have absolutely no idea what
it is--not fully anyways. I have ideas though, as I'm sure all of
you out there do. I don't think, however, that there is one central,
pure idea. It's too complex, means too many things to too many
people. It's brutal, yet soothing. Harsh, yet poignent. Vulgar, yet
poetic. It's Jim Steinman. You either like it or you hate it. But
you can't deny it.
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