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re: Don Claude Devious: Cannibal Rapture

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rockfenris2005 02:28 pm UTC 03/23/11
In reply to: Don Claude Devious: Cannibal Rapture - steven_stuart 09:21 pm UTC 03/21/11



> Ryan, I thought I would transfer this post from the other
> "Confidence Man" thread because I really enjoyed reading
> it. Did you start a new thread because the other one
> became too long and complicated?

I didn't know if the video would be seen there. I thought I'd better start a new thread. But I was going to continue the discuss in the previous thread.
>
> I actually think that "Cannibal Rapture" talk is relevant
> in this "Confidence Man" thread because both "Cannibal
> Rapture" and "Confidence Man" are low budget productions.
>
> One has already worked on stage and the other will work in
> the near future (I just know it).
>
> Does anybody know who the poster called "Chika" is? He or
> she must be a big "Don Claude Devious" fan because he or
> she is using the DCD artwork as their avatar. I know that
> Gibson is a fan and I'm glad to see that Chika is too.
>
> > > > Being totally realistic here, of course. I don't really
> > > > doubt it, but I have to, you know, in case? Don't want to
> > > > be disappointed. Does this make sense?
> > >
> > > It makes sense but you love the "Don Claude" musicals and
> > > you have been working on them for ten years.
> >
> > I know. But I've come to believe that you should never be
> > too confident. You're always going to get a rude surprise.
> > And you should prepare for that.
> > So I'm expecting the worst and hoping for the best. Of
> > course I believe in it. Of course I love it with all my
> > heart. And I'll do anything to make the story work, the
> > story that I've been working on for years. But I don't
> > expect people to think that it's the greatest musical in
> > decades (Of course it would be lovely if they did.) I just
> > hope that they have a good time. I just hope that they
> > remember it in the end.
> > And I hope that it's not as bad as "Carrie" and "Dance of
> > the Vampires" on Broadway (Even though they both had
> > brilliant moments.)
> >
> > David Bowie
> > > was asked how he became a pop star and he replied: "By
> > > pretending that I was a pop star when I wasn't one." If
> > > you have the confidence of a Richard O'Brien, then
> > > "Cannibal Rapture" might enjoy the same kind of success
> > > that "Rocky Horror Show" did.
> >
> > I guess I am as confident as Richard O'Brien when he was
> > working on "Rocky Horror" (one of the original titles was
> > "They came from Denton High") otherwise I wouldn't have
> > pursued it, and he wouldn't have pursued "Rocky Horror".
> > Btw, I love the history of that musical. You know it
> > started out in the Royal Court Theatre Upstairs in this
> > tiny little theatre and now it's the greatest cult musical
> > of all time. If that happened with our musical, and people
> > admired us and we were inspiring other writers, I guess I
> > could die a fulfilled person. That would be good enough
> > for me.
> > But my ultimate dream...!
> >
> > Especially if you play one
> > > of the roles yourself (you are, after all, a brilliant
> > > singer).
> >
> > I probably should, you know, but I want to be able to
> > watch the musical come to life with the audience around
> > me. For ten years, I've wanted to have that experience.
> > But I won't have to really sit with the audience. I'll be
> > above in the lighting and sound area, with the composer,
> > watching it taking place below us. But maybe I could sit
> > with the audience for one of the performances...
> >
> > You shouldn't see the production you are doing as
> > > small. "Rocky Horror Show" started in a very small venue
> > > for experimental theatre in The Royal Court Theatre
> > > building (I think).
> >
> > That's how I'm viewing the production, like the original
> > production of "Rocky Horror". It's not going to be much,
> > set-wise and etc, but it's still going to be an
> > experience.
> >
> > Maybe you should just get totally into
> > > it and direct it yourself. Do more for "Cannibal Rapture"
> > > than Richard did for "Rocky Horror" or Jim is doing for
> > > "BOOH". You never know what might happen. A music biz
> > > executive might see it and turn it into a popular album
> >
> > Well, we're inviting some important people so we'll see
> > what happens. Expecting the worst and hoping for the
> > best...
> >
> > > (both Conas and I think that "Cannibal Rapture" is a
> > > really cool title - the public will too - I almost wish
> > > that you would remove "Don Claude" from the title -
> > > although I may be getting myself into trouble here - hee
> > > hee).
> >
> > No, no, that's fine. It's possible that it may be an
> > alternate title. Many films have alternate titles, e.g.
> > "Snow White: A Tale of Terror" is also known as "Snow
> > White in the Black Forest", or Disney's "The Black
> > Cauldron" and "The Great Mouse Detective" are also
> > referred to as "Taran and the Magic Cauldron" and "The
> > Adventures of the Great Mouse Detective" or "Basil, the
> > Great Mouse Detective". This happens a LOT. (An alternate
> > title for "Neverland"... "Bat out of Hell: The Musical" :D
> > )
> >
> > There are all sorts of things that might happen as a
> > > result of the October production. And once you have
> > > established yourself in Australia, then the rest of the
> > > world will be next. Look at how many Australians have
> > > conquered the world. Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Stuart
> > > Beattie, Robert Stigwood, Nicole Kidman, to name just a
> > > few.
> >
> > Yes, we need another famous writer like Stuart Beattie, I
> > think.
> >
> > I think you have to tell yourself that "Cannibal
> > > Rapture" is going to be fantastic and that it will be you
> > > who makes sure that it is.
> >
> > I think it will be fantastic because I will try to make it
> > fantastic but I'm not expecting it to be mind blowingly
> > fantastic, the best musical since "Sunday in the Park with
> > George", and the new Renaissance.
> >
> > Not that you have ever implied that, but I just had to say
> > that. That's what I've been getting at when I was being
> > totally realistic.
> >
> > I'm really enjoying this thread. Thank you.
> >


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