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re: Braver Than We Are.....how is it holding up?

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rockfenris2005 06:54 am UTC 11/17/16
In reply to: re: Braver Than We Are.....how is it holding up? - Scaramouche 10:25 pm UTC 11/16/16


A KARINE HANNAH STEINMAN ALBUM IS THE DREAM PROJECT FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's right up there with "BATMAN"! She is sensational!

> > So it's been with us a while now. Like it better than at
> > first? Less? Just the same?
>
> Well the cover is great (although the inside booklet
> artwork/layout sucks).
>
> Pros
>
> Who Needs The Young? has a great arrangement and Meat's
> vocal just about works.
>
> DIRTY JOB and GODZ also have great arrangements.
>
> Ellen/Karla are great on GOING ALL THE WAY.
>
> The new bridge section in TONGUES is great, although I'm
> still not too keen on the song overall.
>
> Cons
>
> Meat's vocals (still) don't work for me. Jim describes
> them as 'heroic' and they may well be but at best they
> would only be suited (now) to a stripped back acoustic
> type arrangement (think the last things Johnny Cash did).
> Certainly not the bombast and complexity of a Steinman
> song.
>
> The piano sound throughout is not very good. Probably midi
> and in turn 'thin' with no depth or richness of an
> acoustic grand. I'm surprised Jim (presumably) okayed it.
>
> The production is not on a par with Jim at his best (think
> Bat 2 or Tanz). The more I listen the more it gets
> 'diluted' for me. Certainly can't describe it as
> Steinmanesque. The closest it gets is on GOING ALL THE WAY
> (in a few places) but still falls short.
>
> Also what were they thinking in replacing the thrilling
> and frantic cello attack on MORE with a barely audible
> electronic sound?
>
> Stacy Michelle is obviously a very good singer but I do
> not like the tone of her voice. Karine Hannah, Lorraine
> Crosby or Patti Russo would have been better choices.
>
> In fact, I wish they would still do the Karine
> Hannah/Steinman album as her vocals at the NYC shows last
> year were tremendous. She would be great on NOTHING from
> Garbo?
>
> The song choices were bizarre. Lets face it, SOUVENIRS and
> TRAIN of LOVE are never gonna be in a Steinman top 10 (or
> 50) and were long forgotten (even by Jim). There are far
> better (and rare) pieces in the Steinman catalogue they
> could have reworked (GARBO and Vaults of Heaven
> immediately spring to mind).
>
> The revision/edit of SKULL was horrible. I was hoping for
> a real modern take on the compete TDE69 performance, or at
> least something similar to what Meat did live in the 80's
> but no. Also leaving out the 'let the revels begin'
> section was unforgivable.
>
>
> I really do hope the BAT musical releases some recorded
> music, which feature Jim's (direct) production
> involvement.
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