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re: Braver Than We Are.....how is it holding up?

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The_wolf_with_the_red_roses 06:05 am MST 12/14/16
In reply to: Braver Than We Are.....how is it holding up? - Jacqueline 10:46 am MST 11/16/16

For me, Jim's music starts with his melodies, his evocatice words create such vivid world's. In short, what makes a good Jim Steinman song are how visual they are. Sometimes this is achieved very simply, with songs like Heaven Can Wait and and Rory's version of Making Love Out of Nothing At All, others it's achieved by throwing the kitchen sink into and creating these long sprawling sagas of songs.

It's because of this I love Braver Than We Are. Yes, the backing vocals lack the oomph that other Steinman productions have, and there a few questionable choices on it, but it sounds new enough and seeped in enough nostalgia for me to dig it. My initial review went through each song individually so I went go into to much detail, rather go through it's biggest triumphs.

Going All the Way.

Never cared for the song before in any of it's previous incarnations. Everyone sites the Karienna Hannah version as vastly superior but to me it's a snooze fest and sound like a knock off Bond theme. I love Karienna, but her version just does nothing for me. Meat's version is dark, hopeful and VISUAL. Later in his career, Jim seemed to cut corners with his production (the all revved up demo that was leaked a little while ago for me is as uninspired as people say Braver is) but this song feels like Jim at his best.

Loving You's a Dirty Job

The Original sounds like a demo, a not very polished demo that with horrendous vocals from Rundgren and, again, an uninspired production from Jim. The contrast of Meat and Stacy's vocals, the vastly improved, atmospheric production all unlock the potential the song always felt short of.


Aside from the odd lyric twea, this is superior to the original in every way. People cite Meat's vocals as a weak on the album as a whole but here he sounds awesome, low and drawling and instantly "More" memorable that Andrew Eldritch's contrived whine. Eldritch's singing lacks bite, Meat's are ravenous.

The effects on Meat's vocals seem to be a creative choice, as sometimes there not present at all and Meat sounds great, and unaltered stripped down version of the album would be really interesting to hear at some point.

Some of the songs choices are questionable, Train of Love isn't a very good song by Jim's standards, but Meat and Paul elevate to something that I actually really enjoy. Only When I Feel isn't expanded on or re-recorded in full and More seems to be put after it to fill the part Break It did in the live recording. I love the full song but More is stronger than Break It so I'm in two minds about it as there definitely wasn't room for both.

God's and Skull are both trimmed down, but Paul made them work as self contained little songs that it's not so much a detractor that there incomplete.

I said before but it bares repeating. I wish there was more of this album, which I think is a testament to how good it is. Meat adapts his singing, some songs this proves a triumph and in others not so much, but nowhere on the album is he "shot" or any of the other over reactions people seem to be having. A 70 year old Meat Loaf is still Meat Loaf, and his vocals are far and away more compelling and passionate then what I'm hearing of this Tyce Green album so far.

This isn't a normal Jim and Meat album, and nor should have been. Over four album's we heard them do the Wagnerain, the over the top, and to bookend thier collaborative cycle they did something more experimental and triumphed.

> So it's been with us a while now. Like it better than at
> first? Less? Just the same?

Be really keen to hear your thoughts JD?

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