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rockfenris2005 12:06 am UTC 05/25/21 |
| In reply to: | re: Had Jim been the lyricist for Phantom.... - steven_stuart 10:02 pm UTC 05/24/21 |
I don't know if even Jim's action packed lyrics could have fixed that one. The problem with that is the story. I was surprised to see some Andrew Lloyd Webber fans recently, who don't like the recent shows, actually really liked that one. It's got a great score, the music is fantastic, but the story just doesn't do it for me. I don't understand why he was so obsessed with it for so long. > Wow. Evan, that's a most interesting possibility you bring > up. I have never thought of that. Jim writing the lyrics > for the sung through Aspects Of Love. That show was so > boring. As Ryan once brought up, they even sang lines like > would you like a cup of tea. When it opened on Broadway, > Frank Rich reviewed it saying: if only I could have paid > to see just the set. Which was the one brilliant thing > about it. By Phantom designer Maria Bjornson. But if Jim > had written the Aspects lyrics it could have been a really > cool fun show. > > > You bring up a great point that I didn’t really factor in, > > which is how would Phantom have been different? I didn’t > > think of it from that perspective. I’m guessing Jim > > would’ve wanted to go in a more gothic and darker route > > but I feel the structure for success would’ve still been > > there. Jim would’ve had no problem getting people to feel > > so many different kinds of emotion during the lyrics and > > I’m sure it would’ve been a more entertaining show for my > > particular tastes. > > > > It’s interesting, though. The actual lyricist really > > didn’t go on to this acclaimed career. I’m going to guess > > he made so much money from this show that he could afford > > to be picky with projects. So, for all I know, perhaps > > this wouldn’t have had that gigantic of a change on Jim’s > > career? The thing about Jim was he was always over the top > > in basically every regard but sometimes it came at the > > expense of a reputation people didn’t want to deal with. I > > feel like if anything, Neverland would’ve gotten produced > > much faster on some capacity. I guess it’s inconceivable, > > though to think that tons of projects would’ve fallen into > > his lap because of Phantom. I feel he still would’ve made > > BOOH 2. Honestly, I’m beginning to think of anything, > > perhaps the biggest change would’ve been a longer more > > prolific working relationship between Jim and Andrew Lloyd > > Webber. Perhaps Jim would’ve been brought on board for > > Aspects of Love? > > > > > > > I guess Jim would have made it a very different kind of > > > show. The lyrics they ended up with were bland in > > > comparison to what Jim would have given them but they sort > > > of suited what Andrew and Cameron ended up trying to > > > achieve. At one point they were going to go for a much > > > more rocky show and Steve Harley from Cockney Rebel was > > > the Phantom. They even released a successful single and > > > video with him to promote the show. I wonder if Jim was > > > approached during this phase (I am not sure - hopefully > > > Ryan The Historian will know). It is always possible that > > > Jim would have been replaced the way Steve was replaced > > > when they decided to go in a different direction. But it > > > is interesting to wonder about what Jim's career might > > > have been like if he had written the lyrics for Phantom > > > and it had been massively successful. At first Andrew and > > > Cameron were just going to produce. Imagine if Jim had > > > written music and lyrics for Phantom. I am sure that would > > > have been a very interesting show. Probably I would have > > > prefered that show to what we got. And would there have > > > been a BOOH 2? > > > > > > > So here’s a what if. It’s well known Jim was originally > > > > sought out to write the lyrics for Phantom of the Opera > > > > but had to decline due to prior obligations. My question, > > > > how do you feel Jim’s career would’ve changed had he been > > > > able to write the lyrics for Phantom as initially > > > > intended? > > > > > > > > Now there are a lot of different dynamics at play here > > > > such as, would the musical still have been as successful? > > > > Let’s say in this hypothetical situation it’s still just > > > > as successful. How does it impact Jim’s career? Instantly, > > > > I feel that some variation of Neverland/Bat out of Hell > > > > the Musical would have gotten produced much quicker. > > > > Another thing to ponder, does Jim still reunite with Meat > > > > for Bat II? Does this make Jim such a hot commodity that > > > > many other artists are seeking him out to collaborate > > > > with? Does Meat Loaf give interviews insisting many of the > > > > songs from Phantom were originally written for him (more > > > > of a comedic suggestion there.) What else can anyone think > > > > of? > > > > > > > > I understand there are those who may feel it’s a little > > > > pointless to wonder about this, however I feel that as a > > > > Jim fan it’s disappointing to know he could’ve been > > > > involved in the longest running musical in Broadway > > > > history and instead was involved with one of the shortest. > > > > | |
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