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Leesa 12:41 pm UTC 07/02/07 |
| In reply to: | re: Hello...hello....hello....(simulated echo sound) - Leesa 12:40 pm UTC 07/02/07 |
| See what I mean? I posted a reply just know and everything I wrote was omitted--just the original post reprints. I don't know why that happens.. Leesa > > > > Why are the 840 households so apathetic? That seems a bit > > unusual. Isn't the city council meeting like an excuse to > > get coffee and cake together? The town I refer to as > > Cypherd's/Mine, is a very active volunteerism community > > which I think is natural for a small town. People get > > together at the meetings like it is a regular planned > > event. Most of them don't have much of a sense of humor, > > but between friends they do quite alot of celebrating. > > There is the city council and more attended than that is > > the citizens association. They have a big 4th of July > > celebration this weekend, every 4th of July....the > > weekends are usually better for them but I'm sure that > > they put something in the park this weekend, and then on > > the 4th they will have their parade. I used to live on the > > parade route. There are about 5000 households there, so I > > guess it is a little bit lively. And churches! Jeez, you > > never saw so many churches fill up one small space > > before! > > > > > > > > > Oh, and anything that comes into West Branch concerning > > > 'animals' falls on the police chief's desk as he's the > > > chief animal control officer. We are only the advisory > > > commission that deals strictly secondhand with anything. > > > We offer advise to animal control; we are NOT animal > > > control--HUGE difference. > > > > So, okay, in the technicality, but not in the actual fact, > > because you don't catch the dogs but you set the policies, > > and you should have known what I meant. In the town I was > > briefly drafted to be the Treasurer of the Friends of that > > library, given the huge set of books and all that, and the > > Prez told me what to do and I was to record it and > > disburse it, and what turned out to be the scandal of the > > century was the thing that turned me off of that job right > > away. Imagine a function that costs just as much as the > > amount of the proceeds? At least they didn't lose money on > > it. So, I was at the library all the time getting mail, > > checking on things, writing checks for the library, and > > all of that, and if someone suggested then that I was > > connected with the library I would have had to say hell > > yeah, because it was the checkbook I carried which funded > > them, the memberships were taken there, the mail went > > there, and they let me behind the counter because of that. > > Just because I wasn't the one checking in the books and > > issuing the library cards didn't mean that I wasn't part > > of the library. > > > > And, I wouldn't be dumb about what someone meant by the > > library. Oh you mean the building that has those kinds of > > books or the other kinds of books? See what I mean? > > > > > My e-mail's off the City's website? Too damned funny--they > > > just can't get their shit together..whatever. They e-mail > > > every month for the monutes and I send them back from the > > > same address! > > > > I didn't mean to suggest they don't have it, just that > > they no longer publish it. > > > > > > > I can't for the life of me tell you way no street address > > > wasn't listed last year. Check with the clerk of court in > > > Tipton, Iowa under my name and see how many years I've > > > paid taxes on my 'street address', 626 East Main--believe > > > it's been since about, oh let's say, 1985...? > > > > :) That really does not help much. Anton Fig has been the > > drummer on Letterman since 1985 or so, and was the actual > > real Anton Fig from South Africa until he started doing > > the shuffle with Cypherd, and so for awhile Cypherd had > > alot to show for being Anton Fig for a really long time, > > while he wasn't Anton Fig for very long at all. One day > > I'll make that alot clearer on the site because I have > > some really great videos of the real Anton also from the > > site. I'd put them up now but the computer with those > > archives has crashed. It's easy to tell them apart, > > actually. But history reigns supreme in the sorting. So, > > the property taxes are not really good for me.......and > > maybe you could blame Jim for that :) It does not matter > > to me what Cypherd calls himself, and I know the > > difference, because at the present time we can't be > > together anyway. As long as he doesn't ride into space he > > could do anything he wants, almost. > > > > > > > > >I mean my > > > name's the same, address the same--who knows why? > > > This shit is really splitting hairs. I'm here, on the > > > Animal Control Advisory Commission, not employed in animal > > > control and never met a Thaya. > > > > I'll let a little bit of perspective enter this at this > > point, and give it some time. I haven't wanted to > > frustrate anyone, but as you could see and understand it > > is confusing. Thaya is not someone whom has given leeway > > for trusting, and it is not just her. You have seen the > > photos of what she has done. You also see that you have no > > idea why you should believe that Cypherd wrote RH. Thaya > > is the reason why you don't. > > > > > > > > > Christ, sue me... > > > Leesa > > > > You are not as present on the internet as you once have > > been. I recall the birthday tribute from long past's > > research, I saw your dog's photo back then too....but > > neither of these things are up on searches now. The only > > results that gallytrotter seems to get these days is on > > the message board your saying some awful thing to me, or > > the mention of the email on my website. I looked at bull > > terriers and gallytrotter or your name and couldn't find > > anything. I found a photo of supposedly you I've seen once > > but it is from a page that no longer exists. Why do you > > need diets? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The city council, who votes on appointments here, has > > > > > their own twice monthly meetings where such business takes > > > > > place. We don't have alot of direct contact with them > > > > > unless a situation arises or one of us has NOT been > > > > > reappointed! > > > > > > > > > > > > So then you should not have been surprised that your name > > > > was "updated" on the city's website. It was surely then, > > > > not something you needed to learn from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > >Our agenda doesn't include reappointment > > > > > items--that is found on the city council's agenda--and I > > > > > rarely attend those meetings! > > > > > > > > Even if you don't attend your city council's > > > > meetings...why not? Every active member of Cypherd's/Mine > > > > town goes to the city council meetings like its church or > > > > something. If one is active in the town it is their duty > > > > to see about the town's business, as a member of a town > > > > commission you surely had a responsibility to be present > > > > for answering citizens' questions and speak on the > > > > interests of your own council's concerns. I know about > > > > small town politics a little better than what you are > > > > describing. A bedroom community does not mean that > > > > everyone in it is perpetually asleep. And someone had to > > > > have asked you if you wanted to be reappointed. When you > > > > write your monthly minutes do you wonder what to call > > > > them? Do you say, hmm, what are these, the typing > > > > competition notes, the arts and crafts club minutes, oh of > > > > course, its the Animal Control Commission. Doh. > > > > > > > > And you thought I meant the other Animal Control > > > > Commission? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >We worry about the need for > > > > > cat ordianaces, pet shows and whatnot. > > > > > > > > And what part of that is not Animal Control? > > > > > > > > > > > > >But you have a > > > > > valid query--but such are the politics of small town > > > > > government... > > > > > > > > Like I said, I've lived with small town politics to know > > > > what small town politics is about. I find it is a smaller > > > > version of large town politics. Are you suggesting that we > > > > could re-appoint a city official without his knowledge? I > > > > doubt that anyone wanting such position in his stead would > > > > allow the absence of an opportunity. > > > > > > > > > > > > >oh, and me taking minutes of the commission's > > > > > meetings and not wondering about my reappointment is > > > > > called 'no news is not changed news' because it wasn't on > > > > > our agenda! > > > > > > > > Again, if it was no news is not changed news, then you > > > > needn't have been surprised here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > And no, Animal Control in and of itself is very different. > > > > > > > > If it is called Animal Control, and every month it is > > > > called Animal Control, and your forms come in to Animal > > > > Control, and it is the controlling of situations that > > > > arise concerning Animals, it is Animal Control. What comes > > > > about in your town concerning Animals that does not fall > > > > into your commission's jurisdiction? > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was chair of the Bull Terrier Club's legislative > > > > > group--our focus was fair dog laws. As a concerned pet > > > > > owner with experience working with city councils who were > > > > > recodifying their laws, I got more involved with West > > > > > Branch's recodification process which involved a > > > > > tremendous amount of education. In 2002, our chief animal > > > > > control officer, the then police chief, shot a dog (in the > > > > > dog's fenced yard)which he thought to be the dog at large > > > > > in question. It wasn't and all hell broke loose over where > > > > > our 4 yr old dog laws went wrong. West Branch was under > > > > > scrutiny of the entire state, so our little group was > > > > > formed at the-then mayor's request. > > > > > > > > Animal Control. I understand you replaced the role of the > > > > then police chief as you describe, but you didn't form a > > > > knitting club to do that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Animal control per se is not something that I'm really > > > > > involved in to a meaningful degree--the education of > > > > > cities in regards to breed specific laws, especially as > > > > > they pertain to my breed is what I'm better versed in. > > > > > Other people do animal control, I don't I advise our > > > > > animal control here as a hobby. > > > > > > > > What do you mean by this? Animal Control is not a hobby by > > > > anyone's standards. Some would argue that Animal Control > > > > is anywhere between the welfare of animals and the killing > > > > of animals, but wherever the philosophy or actions arise, > > > > there is Animal Control as the banner heading. Thaya had > > > > grown up with, as she said, two hundred cats, and she > > > > objected to my giving healing treatment to my own cat who > > > > had a terrible injury on his paw. She said I should put > > > > the animal to sleep and I argued with her. She told me > > > > that she wanted to be in Animal Control to put all the > > > > animals out of their misery. She nearly killed my cat > > > > later on when I sent him to live with her family when I > > > > was not able to care for him. But he managed to live by > > > > some graces of a caring vet, which is rare these days. I > > > > advocate the life of animals, and to me it is not an issue > > > > of misery, but of living. There are analgesics for pain, > > > > and pleasures beyond illness. I feel very strongly about > > > > this. Thaya has a flippant attitude about animals, like > > > > they are throwaways. I hope you are not her. I hope you > > > > really care about animals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do apologise if I have misled you--you thought I was IN > > > > > /wanted to be IN animal control and was a PART-TIME Iowa > > > > > resident. > > > > > > > > I was not able to find a street address for you a year > > > > ago, and the only listing I found for you when I looked > > > > previously was the address of city hall. Therefore I had > > > > the impression that you were "living" there for > > > > appearances. I'm still not sure of that even now, because > > > > in the year, now you have an address, and your email has > > > > been taken off of the Animal Control listing. Things were > > > > changed, and who changed them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Do you have any idea how many people in Iowa fit > > > > > that more specific bill? We have 2 other 'Leesa's in West > > > > > Branch alone! As soon as gallytrot/ter was mentioned, hey, > > > > > that's me. Sorry for confusion. > > > > > And as for the phone number, oh good god--319 is the area > > > > > code--that's an Iowa landline area code. > > > > > > > > Yes, it is a landline phone. Some people keep houses for a > > > > phone itself.....it is a very complicated world...not > > > > saying you are, but these are thoughts I have to filter > > > > past. I don't want to be nit-picky, and I am glad that you > > > > have a landline phone. What kind of DSL does Liberty > > > > provide? > > > > > > > > >You call, someone > > > > > picks it up---have a little faith--odds are it's eastern > > > > > Iowa. Again, why would someone like me put in the added > > > > > effort to hide my damned location? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I mean after a while > > > > > you just have to trust...if I didn't want to be tracked, > > > > > I'd list my cell number! Call Liberty Telephone in West > > > > > Liberty, Iowa--I've had the same landline since 1984--why > > > > > would I reroute it? Believe me--if that number rings, it's > > > > > ringing in Iowa. > > > > > I again don't have a clue about a Dennis Radar--he was > > > > > involved with animal control in Kansas? I have most > > > > > contact with the Bull Terrier Club of America, the AKC > > > > > club affiliate--names in our club I can trace and > > > > > recognise. Our breed club hasn't had tremendous problems > > > > > with Kansas, say opposed to Ohio...but individual names in > > > > > different states/cities don't really matter with the > > > > > involvment I've had with this situation. I honestly have > > > > > no connection with Wichita--been there once driving > > > > > through on a family vacation about 40 years back---just a > > > > > coincidence. Again, why should I lie? > > > > > I'm glad you found the Yearbook--that was such fun. My > > > > > 'Elvis' was placed with Andy Hamen (a pretty famous > > > > > wrestler fron U of Iowa) and his family had such fun with > > > > > that puppy! They never showed him, but they did dress him > > > > > up and printed tons of stationary-type things with his > > > > > image. Palm Press bought that wonderful likeness and he > > > > > was such a marvellous breed ambassador. So yeah, I wanted > > > > > Jim to see MY life's proudest work--my 'Bad Moon', my > > > > > 'Bat'...and yeah, I did flirt shamelessly. I'll never stop > > > > > loving Jim...I'm glad you found that site--the Yearbook > > > > > was a labour of love. > > > > > > > > > > > > > As for my driver's license, I just rather not have that on > > > > > the internet. > > > > > > > > I'm understanding of that. > > > > > > > > I don't want to insist on it, being as I am working on > > > > other issues anyway, but just to say that photos on the > > > > internet do not always represent the real person. > > > > > > > > > > > > >If I'm so clever as to be rerouting landline > > > > > phone numbers and whatnot, I could forge photos on a > > > > > supposed license posted online. > > > > > > > > Yes, that is true, but most people with success fooling > > > > people online don't feel the need to have an actual > > > > drivers license, because there is no traffic cop here > > > > saying pull over, etc. When you need to have ID for any > > > > number of other situations chances are you are not in West > > > > Branch Iowa, and any other ID would do. Thaya's legal > > > > address is in Idaho, and her Magoch address is in Arizona. > > > > Her brother's address is in some other locale, and her > > > > sister's address is at an old address of Thaya's so she > > > > may still even have her California ID. I would say, that > > > > of the things I would least expect her to have, is an Iowa > > > > driver license. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I don't want some numbers > > > > > out there--actually, who cares how I look? What added > > > > > proof is that? I think there might still be an old photo > > > > > on the West Branch Government site > > > > > > > > I saw that photo awhile ago and didn't trust it. The town > > > > is too small for a lack of internet ha-ha's between > > > > friends. > > > > > > > > > > > > >--or e-mail any > > > > > prominent sounding person on the BTCA's site and ask > > > > > who/what I look like! I do still look much as I did on the > > > > > Yearbook photo. > > > > > > > > And you can tell me what Jim Cypherd looks like, too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I did give you about as much proof as to who I am/not > > > > > as I can. I've been honest and positive. I deny nothing > > > > > that is true and have elaborated willingly as I have > > > > > nothing to hide. I only get my back up when you accuse me > > > > > of something I know nothing about. > > > > > > > > Well, let's see where the roads split and separate you > > > > from her, and that would be good. I've shown some things > > > > that you have not replied to. You may help by commenting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't know what else to do... > > > > > Leesa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey they updated it! I knew I was up for reappointment 2 > > > > > > > months back, but I'm always the last to know--gotta learn > > > > > > > it from the Rockman!! > > > > > > > > > > > > That's quite a shame that they didn't tell you in the May > > > > > > 8th Meeting. Not only that, but it wasn't even published > > > > > > on the June 12th Agenda. But really, do you actually have > > > > > > so large and formal a burearacy that you can't know these > > > > > > things? You've been on this commission already, and should > > > > > > know that amongst the coffee klatch of you, you would have > > > > > > continuity. And I find this far from your statement as not > > > > > > ever wanting or having been in Animal Control, to the > > > > > > point of a direct and known contradiction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >And that's my phone as well--if the > > > > > > > kids are off the line people can even call me and hear how > > > > > > > boring I am in person! > > > > > > > > > > > > Phone numbers don't mean anything. I have an Ohio phone > > > > > > number, and when I was in New York for a year I had three > > > > > > phone lines set up for me and Cypherd, where he could call > > > > > > me locally from Los Angeles, and I could call him locally > > > > > > from New York. Phone numbers, there are such a thing as > > > > > > service numbers, remote call forwarding, standard call > > > > > > forwarding, switching stations re-routing, and all of > > > > > > that. Just because someone can call you in Iowa, doesn't > > > > > > mean you are in Iowa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >They keep me on because no one else > > > > > > > wants to take minute notes at the monthly meetings! > > > > > > > > > > > > So while you are busy taking minute notes once per month > > > > > > you don't know you are on the Commission? Hmmm.....what > > > > > > does someone call that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The > > > > > > > city website should also have us archieved. > > > > > > > But no, not to split hairs or contribute to confusion, > > > > > > > we're a community ADVISORY commission and none of us are > > > > > > > employed in nor do we participate full time an animal > > > > > > > control capacity. > > > > > > > > > > > > Well that's pretty standard for a small town commission, > > > > > > but it isn't the ceramics club. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This became a hobby of mine born out of > > > > > > > my involvement with the Bull Terrier Club of America which > > > > > > > was actively involved in combatting breed specific > > > > > > > legislation in the mid 90's. I know an awful lot of > > > > > > > people in animal control in Iowa and we come from pretty > > > > > > > different places. I do rescue for the national club--I'm > > > > > > > pretty specialised! I'm also involved in wildlife > > > > > > > rehabilitation. > > > > > > > > > > > > One of those places Wichita? Did you know Dennis Rader? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thaya was three people removed from connection with Dennis > > > > > > Rader, one person the man who she was very close friends > > > > > > with named Jon, the second person Jon's friend Brian, and > > > > > > Dennis Rader is Brian's younger but otherly named brother. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Between Wichita and West Branch is a bit over 500 miles > > > > > > and it is less than an eight hour drive. > > > > > > > > > > > > The significance of Rader is multi-fold, not just his > > > > > > infamy now, but his brothers' penchant for trouble, > > > > > > starting in my experiences with Brian when I was > > > > > > introduced to him in 1979. It was a horrid deal knowing > > > > > > him, and Jon insisted he should join the committee for the > > > > > > science fiction convention that I had founded, but Jon > > > > > > placed him there without any particular job, calling it > > > > > > "logistics". What those logistics turned out to be was > > > > > > direct sabatoge of my involvement with my own convention. > > > > > > During this time Brian told me of his two brothers in > > > > > > almost the same conversation, or at least same location, > > > > > > at one or two of the meetings, held at his own home in > > > > > > upper Manhattan. He said of his two younger brothers > > > > > > different things. The first he described was David > > > > > > Westerfield, who became infamous in 2002, and the second > > > > > > he described was Dennis Rader who became infamous in 2005. > > > > > > Brian said he wants to cause the world as much trouble as > > > > > > he can. Sick man. I could only suspect but believe I have > > > > > > traced their lineage and other members of their family. > > > > > > One of them seemed to marry into the family of one of the > > > > > > men connected with starting up the assignment for making > > > > > > the RH cult. It all is like a bad map, instead of all > > > > > > roads leading to Rome, these lead to hostile and > > > > > > imperialistic members of my family, through their own > > > > > > associations. I would never choose to meet or know such > > > > > > people. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dennis Rader was in Animal Control in Wichita. You say > > > > > > that you met others in part of your National interests in > > > > > > Animal Control. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One place you may not have stumbled on that alot of on the > > > > > > > Rockman who were here in 2000 are listed and detailed on > > > > > > > (at least where we were 7 years back)is the Jim Steinman > > > > > > > Pacifica Yearbook that an very cool Australian fan put > > > > > > > together. > > > > > > > > > > > > I saw that card. Very cute where you flirted with Jim to > > > > > > the effect that you can't have him, etcetera. I found it > > > > > > interesting that the first time I met Thaya, she flirted > > > > > > with the boyfriend I was with, when I was with him, and > > > > > > then told me I was being possessive. She had that way > > > > > > about her, flirting the same as saying hello. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Do a google and it should pop up. My photo's > > > > > > > there along with Elvis, one of my favourite dogs > > > > > > > ('Gallytrot's Guy at Graceland') out of my last litter > > > > > > > from '93. It's still floating about and JD should link it > > > > > > > if she hasn't already. > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever photo you have there I will look for it again, > > > > > > but at the present time I'm most inclined to accept the > > > > > > photo that is on your drivers license with proof that it > > > > > > is on your drivers license. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gotta go chase the horses now... > > > > > > > Leesa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >nor was I ever/wanted to be in Animal Control. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leesa, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is something of a kind of problem that I run into. > > > > > > > > West Branch, Iowa shows Leesa Johnson on the Animal > > > > > > > > Control Commission with a term to expire in 2009. See > > > > > > > > photo of site: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > | |
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