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re: Is Lietmotif The Same As A Reprise?

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pidunk 02:29 am UTC 05/14/07
In reply to: re: Is Lietmotif The Same As A Reprise? - Smeghead 08:59 pm UTC 05/13/07



> > I'm sure you can continue to find reasons to hate me :)
> > But you could like me just as easily.
>
> Nope I could not. You have to be putting people on...
>
> Herman Melville's
> > Moby Dick is about the whale and Gipeto,
>
> No, Pinnochio is about a Whale and Gipeto.... Moby Dick is
> about a whale and Capt. Ahab. However The Confidence Man
> by Melville, which is what was being referenced, is not
> about a whale at all... nor about death.

I've never had much patience for reading novels, and I relied on what I had heard people telling me. I'm standing corrected on these points. I'll work on that answer.
I know that many great writers of literature have been influenced by Moby Dick, and that if I were to read novels, it should be at the top of the list. I'd definitely like to know what reason existed for Melville to have been mentioned, being as it was "Melville" and not "Confidence Man" elst I would have known what to consider and not have answered as ignorantly as I did. I do not know the story of the Confidence Man. Jim has assured me I don't need to. What it means to me is that whatever the works Jim has placed into it has meaning separate from Melville. I don't mind the homework, but the assignments do seem to pile up! :)

Like, hate, whatever. Coexistence is good.




>
>
>
> a presumed death
> > with the continuance of life, which took all the
> > dimensions of every emotion and every permutation of
> > issues concerning life, hope, and second chances. A
> > Mississippi riverboat has a thing or two in thematic
> > common in Jim's universe, which you'd be angry if I tried
> > to explain. But, there is connection, between those two
> > and the piece "Graveyard Shift". Even if in the most
> > literal sense, a graveyard deals with what, but graves
> > (one of the surnames in Jim's genealogy, I have learned,
> > which could be a double entrendre given up by fate in a
> > sense.)
> >
> >
> > >
> > > unless Jim's work as a whole was to be viewed as
> > > > one cohesive piece which is meant to be taken together.
> >
> > Yes, I do believe that Jim's works are particles of one
> > whole.
> >
> > I
> > > > think that would be an incredible stretch of the
> > > > definition of LietMotif, tho.
> >
> > Perhaps, but that is the artistic domain.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I agree. I see no theme behind i.e. using the same tune of
> > > "Edging Into Darkness" for "The Graveyard Shift". What
> > > does Batman have to do with Herman Melville and a
> > > Mississippi riverboat? Nothing.
> >
> > Maybe Batman as a comic character has nothing to do with
> > those, but I think that study of Jim's works could yield
> > to the understanding that he does not mold to the story,
> > but makes the story mold to his own vision.
> >
> >


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