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re: If Todd Rundgren had written Bat...

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Marvello 03:05 am UTC 01/15/09
In reply to: re: If Todd Rundgren had written Bat... - Pudding 02:40 am UTC 01/15/09

Wow, to dismiss an artists work because you don't like a song indicates to me that your a lot more narrow minded than i thought.

A lot of people on here go on about musicals, i don't like them, but i have enough respect for the composer etc to not come on here spouting it's shite, just because i don't like it.
I could use your argument about "commercial shite" about the vast majority of Jim's musicals, lets be honest with the exception of Tanz (luck again?)they've all pretty much not exsisted/flopped, one shouldn't really use the commercial shite phrase, it demeens to much in the arts world, not just music, but paintings/sculpture etc which were dismissed as "shite" and has since become some of our greatest works of art.
Like it, don't like it, the choice is yours, but never, never dismiss another artist work as "shite" that is so narrow minded.

Not touchy about Todd especially, just believe any musician , especially one who's been in the business as long as Todd doesn't deserve his work labelled as shite.

> Seems you're a little touchy when it comes to Todd, but
> you're talking bollocks as per usual, just like your
> nonsense babble about the Eurovision.
>
> You can say Todd hasn't chased commercial success but the
> truth is, his songs haven't been commercially successful
> because they're shite.
>
> > Opnions are like arsehole we all got them, just coz you
> > happen not to like them don't make them shite, a lot of
> > people do, as for artisicically i think youre talkin
> > crap.
> > Artisically Todd is one of the most artisic of musicians,
> > in the same vein as Zappa/Bowie, but i guess you dont like
> > them either.
> > Jim is very creative but as for pushing musical
> > boundaries, well, i don't think he ever has, lets face it
> > the success of BOOH was sheer luck, the following 10+
> > years he coasted on it's success. Then PB flopped
> > completley, but through skillfull marketing BIH was mega,
> > and lo and behold coasting again.
> > Todd has never really chased commercial sucess, he got
> > lucky with "I saw the light".
> > Todd is an innovator, Jim was but lets be honest, he
> > hasn't really moved on, still pretty muche same old, same
> > old.
> > Thats why we love it, we pretty know what we gonna get,
> > the same can't be said of Todd, Zappa, Bowie, they try to
> > move this entity called Rock n Roll on.
> >
> >
> > > Most of Todds songs are artistically and commercially
> > > shite, if he could write like Jim then you'd have thought
> > > he'd given it a go after the commercial success of Bat1
> > > and every other commercially successful thing Jim has done
> > > that Todd has been involved with.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Maybe he's never wanted to write songs like Jim, strikes
> > > > me that Todd pretty much does what Todd pleases. Just to
> > > > dimiss his writing skills in the way you do demeens his
> > > > extrodinary talent.
> > > > You're right though that he couldn't create an album like
> > > > BOOH, with it's evolution nobody could (cept Jimmy). But
> > > > thats not what i said, re-read the 1st line.
> > > >
> > > > > You can't just create something like Bat. If Todd could
> > > > > then Jim wouldn't be the talent he is. Todd can do some
> > > > > great stuff... but I see no evidence that he could write
> > > > > songs like Jim
> > > > >
> > > > > > I think if Todd wanted to do an album that sounded like
> > > > > > BOOH he would have no trouble at all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just look at his career, the wide range of styles, he
> > > > > > pretty much nails any style he tries, the albums are not
> > > > > > always commercially successful though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unlike Jim he doesn't seem to be stuck in the same old
> > > > > > rut.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Todd wouldn't / couldn't have written a Bat like album so
> > > > > > > the point is moot. His songs are completely different and
> > > > > > > as Pud says... well, shit. He arranges BG Vocals well,
> > > > > > > and plays a mean guitar. His songs do NOTHING for me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I wonder what it would have sounded like?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Shit probably. I'm not a Todd Rundgren fan at all, well
> > > > > > > > his songs anyway.


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