To be fair, I can see why some people dislike the boots of TDE shows. They are very rough recordings of a very rough show, and some of the songs (I'm thinking "Still the Children") really don't come out of them very well.
I'm not a huge fan of Rob - not because he isn't Meat, but because he doesn't strike me as being right for a band - but Elaine's version IACBTMN is fantastic.
Sadly, discussing Dream Engine seems to be pretty academic these days.
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