For me i think it was when i had discovered bat 2, then bat 1, and when looking up info about the various people involved (meat, jim, todd, etc) at the library (oh pre-internet, how i do not miss you), i saw jim had written making love out of nothing at all, which is a song i liked when i was TWO YEARS OLD. i sort of figured out then that something about his music "spoke" to me and followed him equally with meat from then on.
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