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Leesa (gallytrotter@mchsi.com) 04:50 am UTC 07/02/07 |
| In reply to: | re: Hello...hello....hello....(simulated echo sound) - pidunk 04:16 am UTC 07/02/07 |
| Jeeeez.... Uhhh....I was being slightly sarcastic about not knowikng about any city statistics until this website. But no, life and death does not as a rule occur at council meetings so no, this really isn't a bomb dropper that my commission members aren't there each meeting. Welcome to small Iowa...and we did NOT replace the 'role' of police chief as chief animal control officer--our funding wouldn't allow it--rather we replace SEVERAL police chiefs who had to service the same roles. We just tweaked the laws. And yeah, the mayor left a voice mail asking if I wanted to stay on our commission-well duh, it's Leesa Johnson--she wants off, we'd have heard! Welcome to West Branch! If the councilhas an issue for us, the city calls one of us so we have a heads up to be there to answer questions. Hey, adverage audience rate is like 3.... Oh, and anything that comes into West Branch concerning 'animals' falls on the police chief's desk as he's the chief animal control officer. We are only the advisory commission that deals strictly secondhand with anything. We offer advise to animal control; we are NOT animal control--HUGE difference. My e-mail's off the City's website? Too damned funny--they just can't get their shit together..whatever. They e-mail every month for the monutes and I send them back from the same address! I can't for the life of me tell you way no street address wasn't listed last year. Check with the clerk of court in Tipton, Iowa under my name and see how many years I've paid taxes on my 'street address', 626 East Main--believe it's been since about, oh let's say, 1985...? I mean my name's the same, address the same--who knows why? This shit is really splitting hairs. I'm here, on the Animal Control Advisory Commission, not employed in animal control and never met a Thaya. Christ, sue me... Leesa > > > > The city council, who votes on appointments here, has > > their own twice monthly meetings where such business takes > > place. We don't have alot of direct contact with them > > unless a situation arises or one of us has NOT been > > reappointed! > > > So then you should not have been surprised that your name > was "updated" on the city's website. It was surely then, > not something you needed to learn from here. > > > >Our agenda doesn't include reappointment > > items--that is found on the city council's agenda--and I > > rarely attend those meetings! > > Even if you don't attend your city council's > meetings...why not? Every active member of Cypherd's/Mine > town goes to the city council meetings like its church or > something. If one is active in the town it is their duty > to see about the town's business, as a member of a town > commission you surely had a responsibility to be present > for answering citizens' questions and speak on the > interests of your own council's concerns. I know about > small town politics a little better than what you are > describing. A bedroom community does not mean that > everyone in it is perpetually asleep. And someone had to > have asked you if you wanted to be reappointed. When you > write your monthly minutes do you wonder what to call > them? Do you say, hmm, what are these, the typing > competition notes, the arts and crafts club minutes, oh of > course, its the Animal Control Commission. Doh. > > And you thought I meant the other Animal Control > Commission? > > > > >We worry about the need for > > cat ordianaces, pet shows and whatnot. > > And what part of that is not Animal Control? > > > >But you have a > > valid query--but such are the politics of small town > > government... > > Like I said, I've lived with small town politics to know > what small town politics is about. I find it is a smaller > version of large town politics. Are you suggesting that we > could re-appoint a city official without his knowledge? I > doubt that anyone wanting such position in his stead would > allow the absence of an opportunity. > > > >oh, and me taking minutes of the commission's > > meetings and not wondering about my reappointment is > > called 'no news is not changed news' because it wasn't on > > our agenda! > > Again, if it was no news is not changed news, then you > needn't have been surprised here. > > > > And no, Animal Control in and of itself is very different. > > If it is called Animal Control, and every month it is > called Animal Control, and your forms come in to Animal > Control, and it is the controlling of situations that > arise concerning Animals, it is Animal Control. What comes > about in your town concerning Animals that does not fall > into your commission's jurisdiction? > > > > I was chair of the Bull Terrier Club's legislative > > group--our focus was fair dog laws. As a concerned pet > > owner with experience working with city councils who were > > recodifying their laws, I got more involved with West > > Branch's recodification process which involved a > > tremendous amount of education. In 2002, our chief animal > > control officer, the then police chief, shot a dog (in the > > dog's fenced yard)which he thought to be the dog at large > > in question. It wasn't and all hell broke loose over where > > our 4 yr old dog laws went wrong. West Branch was under > > scrutiny of the entire state, so our little group was > > formed at the-then mayor's request. > > Animal Control. I understand you replaced the role of the > then police chief as you describe, but you didn't form a > knitting club to do that. > > > > Animal control per se is not something that I'm really > > involved in to a meaningful degree--the education of > > cities in regards to breed specific laws, especially as > > they pertain to my breed is what I'm better versed in. > > Other people do animal control, I don't I advise our > > animal control here as a hobby. > > What do you mean by this? Animal Control is not a hobby by > anyone's standards. Some would argue that Animal Control > is anywhere between the welfare of animals and the killing > of animals, but wherever the philosophy or actions arise, > there is Animal Control as the banner heading. Thaya had > grown up with, as she said, two hundred cats, and she > objected to my giving healing treatment to my own cat who > had a terrible injury on his paw. She said I should put > the animal to sleep and I argued with her. She told me > that she wanted to be in Animal Control to put all the > animals out of their misery. She nearly killed my cat > later on when I sent him to live with her family when I > was not able to care for him. But he managed to live by > some graces of a caring vet, which is rare these days. I > advocate the life of animals, and to me it is not an issue > of misery, but of living. There are analgesics for pain, > and pleasures beyond illness. I feel very strongly about > this. Thaya has a flippant attitude about animals, like > they are throwaways. I hope you are not her. I hope you > really care about animals. > > > > I do apologise if I have misled you--you thought I was IN > > /wanted to be IN animal control and was a PART-TIME Iowa > > resident. > > I was not able to find a street address for you a year > ago, and the only listing I found for you when I looked > previously was the address of city hall. Therefore I had > the impression that you were "living" there for > appearances. I'm still not sure of that even now, because > in the year, now you have an address, and your email has > been taken off of the Animal Control listing. Things were > changed, and who changed them? > > > > > >Do you have any idea how many people in Iowa fit > > that more specific bill? We have 2 other 'Leesa's in West > > Branch alone! As soon as gallytrot/ter was mentioned, hey, > > that's me. Sorry for confusion. > > And as for the phone number, oh good god--319 is the area > > code--that's an Iowa landline area code. > > Yes, it is a landline phone. Some people keep houses for a > phone itself.....it is a very complicated world...not > saying you are, but these are thoughts I have to filter > past. I don't want to be nit-picky, and I am glad that you > have a landline phone. What kind of DSL does Liberty > provide? > > >You call, someone > > picks it up---have a little faith--odds are it's eastern > > Iowa. Again, why would someone like me put in the added > > effort to hide my damned location? > > > > I mean after a while > > you just have to trust...if I didn't want to be tracked, > > I'd list my cell number! Call Liberty Telephone in West > > Liberty, Iowa--I've had the same landline since 1984--why > > would I reroute it? Believe me--if that number rings, it's > > ringing in Iowa. > > I again don't have a clue about a Dennis Radar--he was > > involved with animal control in Kansas? I have most > > contact with the Bull Terrier Club of America, the AKC > > club affiliate--names in our club I can trace and > > recognise. Our breed club hasn't had tremendous problems > > with Kansas, say opposed to Ohio...but individual names in > > different states/cities don't really matter with the > > involvment I've had with this situation. I honestly have > > no connection with Wichita--been there once driving > > through on a family vacation about 40 years back---just a > > coincidence. Again, why should I lie? > > I'm glad you found the Yearbook--that was such fun. My > > 'Elvis' was placed with Andy Hamen (a pretty famous > > wrestler fron U of Iowa) and his family had such fun with > > that puppy! They never showed him, but they did dress him > > up and printed tons of stationary-type things with his > > image. Palm Press bought that wonderful likeness and he > > was such a marvellous breed ambassador. So yeah, I wanted > > Jim to see MY life's proudest work--my 'Bad Moon', my > > 'Bat'...and yeah, I did flirt shamelessly. I'll never stop > > loving Jim...I'm glad you found that site--the Yearbook > > was a labour of love. > > > > As for my driver's license, I just rather not have that on > > the internet. > > I'm understanding of that. > > I don't want to insist on it, being as I am working on > other issues anyway, but just to say that photos on the > internet do not always represent the real person. > > > >If I'm so clever as to be rerouting landline > > phone numbers and whatnot, I could forge photos on a > > supposed license posted online. > > Yes, that is true, but most people with success fooling > people online don't feel the need to have an actual > drivers license, because there is no traffic cop here > saying pull over, etc. When you need to have ID for any > number of other situations chances are you are not in West > Branch Iowa, and any other ID would do. Thaya's legal > address is in Idaho, and her Magoch address is in Arizona. > Her brother's address is in some other locale, and her > sister's address is at an old address of Thaya's so she > may still even have her California ID. I would say, that > of the things I would least expect her to have, is an Iowa > driver license. > > > > >I don't want some numbers > > out there--actually, who cares how I look? What added > > proof is that? I think there might still be an old photo > > on the West Branch Government site > > I saw that photo awhile ago and didn't trust it. The town > is too small for a lack of internet ha-ha's between > friends. > > > >--or e-mail any > > prominent sounding person on the BTCA's site and ask > > who/what I look like! I do still look much as I did on the > > Yearbook photo. > > And you can tell me what Jim Cypherd looks like, too. > > > > But I did give you about as much proof as to who I am/not > > as I can. I've been honest and positive. I deny nothing > > that is true and have elaborated willingly as I have > > nothing to hide. I only get my back up when you accuse me > > of something I know nothing about. > > Well, let's see where the roads split and separate you > from her, and that would be good. I've shown some things > that you have not replied to. You may help by commenting. > > > > > > Don't know what else to do... > > Leesa > > > > > > > > > > Hey they updated it! I knew I was up for reappointment 2 > > > > months back, but I'm always the last to know--gotta learn > > > > it from the Rockman!! > > > > > > That's quite a shame that they didn't tell you in the May > > > 8th Meeting. Not only that, but it wasn't even published > > > on the June 12th Agenda. But really, do you actually have > > > so large and formal a burearacy that you can't know these > > > things? You've been on this commission already, and should > > > know that amongst the coffee klatch of you, you would have > > > continuity. And I find this far from your statement as not > > > ever wanting or having been in Animal Control, to the > > > point of a direct and known contradiction. > > > > > > > > > >And that's my phone as well--if the > > > > kids are off the line people can even call me and hear how > > > > boring I am in person! > > > > > > Phone numbers don't mean anything. I have an Ohio phone > > > number, and when I was in New York for a year I had three > > > phone lines set up for me and Cypherd, where he could call > > > me locally from Los Angeles, and I could call him locally > > > from New York. Phone numbers, there are such a thing as > > > service numbers, remote call forwarding, standard call > > > forwarding, switching stations re-routing, and all of > > > that. Just because someone can call you in Iowa, doesn't > > > mean you are in Iowa. > > > > > > > > > > > > >They keep me on because no one else > > > > wants to take minute notes at the monthly meetings! > > > > > > So while you are busy taking minute notes once per month > > > you don't know you are on the Commission? Hmmm.....what > > > does someone call that? > > > > > > > > > >The > > > > city website should also have us archieved. > > > > But no, not to split hairs or contribute to confusion, > > > > we're a community ADVISORY commission and none of us are > > > > employed in nor do we participate full time an animal > > > > control capacity. > > > > > > Well that's pretty standard for a small town commission, > > > but it isn't the ceramics club. > > > > > > > > > > This became a hobby of mine born out of > > > > my involvement with the Bull Terrier Club of America which > > > > was actively involved in combatting breed specific > > > > legislation in the mid 90's. I know an awful lot of > > > > people in animal control in Iowa and we come from pretty > > > > different places. I do rescue for the national club--I'm > > > > pretty specialised! I'm also involved in wildlife > > > > rehabilitation. > > > > > > One of those places Wichita? Did you know Dennis Rader? > > > > > > Thaya was three people removed from connection with Dennis > > > Rader, one person the man who she was very close friends > > > with named Jon, the second person Jon's friend Brian, and > > > Dennis Rader is Brian's younger but otherly named brother. > > > > > > > > > Between Wichita and West Branch is a bit over 500 miles > > > and it is less than an eight hour drive. > > > > > > The significance of Rader is multi-fold, not just his > > > infamy now, but his brothers' penchant for trouble, > > > starting in my experiences with Brian when I was > > > introduced to him in 1979. It was a horrid deal knowing > > > him, and Jon insisted he should join the committee for the > > > science fiction convention that I had founded, but Jon > > > placed him there without any particular job, calling it > > > "logistics". What those logistics turned out to be was > > > direct sabatoge of my involvement with my own convention. > > > During this time Brian told me of his two brothers in > > > almost the same conversation, or at least same location, > > > at one or two of the meetings, held at his own home in > > > upper Manhattan. He said of his two younger brothers > > > different things. The first he described was David > > > Westerfield, who became infamous in 2002, and the second > > > he described was Dennis Rader who became infamous in 2005. > > > Brian said he wants to cause the world as much trouble as > > > he can. Sick man. I could only suspect but believe I have > > > traced their lineage and other members of their family. > > > One of them seemed to marry into the family of one of the > > > men connected with starting up the assignment for making > > > the RH cult. It all is like a bad map, instead of all > > > roads leading to Rome, these lead to hostile and > > > imperialistic members of my family, through their own > > > associations. I would never choose to meet or know such > > > people. > > > > > > Dennis Rader was in Animal Control in Wichita. You say > > > that you met others in part of your National interests in > > > Animal Control. > > > > > > > > > > One place you may not have stumbled on that alot of on the > > > > Rockman who were here in 2000 are listed and detailed on > > > > (at least where we were 7 years back)is the Jim Steinman > > > > Pacifica Yearbook that an very cool Australian fan put > > > > together. > > > > > > I saw that card. Very cute where you flirted with Jim to > > > the effect that you can't have him, etcetera. I found it > > > interesting that the first time I met Thaya, she flirted > > > with the boyfriend I was with, when I was with him, and > > > then told me I was being possessive. She had that way > > > about her, flirting the same as saying hello. > > > > > > > > > > > > >Do a google and it should pop up. My photo's > > > > there along with Elvis, one of my favourite dogs > > > > ('Gallytrot's Guy at Graceland') out of my last litter > > > > from '93. It's still floating about and JD should link it > > > > if she hasn't already. > > > > > > Whatever photo you have there I will look for it again, > > > but at the present time I'm most inclined to accept the > > > photo that is on your drivers license with proof that it > > > is on your drivers license. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gotta go chase the horses now... > > > > Leesa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >nor was I ever/wanted to be in Animal Control. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leesa, > > > > > > > > > > Here is something of a kind of problem that I run into. > > > > > West Branch, Iowa shows Leesa Johnson on the Animal > > > > > Control Commission with a term to expire in 2009. See > > > > > photo of site: > > > > > > > > > > | |
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