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pidunk 03:38 pm UTC 07/05/07 |
| In reply to: | re: Hello...hello....hello....(simulated echo sound) - pidunk 09:48 am UTC 07/04/07 |
This is all very hard for me. There is a unique difference between finding one person same as another person when you have the person telling you that it could and would be found, or when someone is silent as to whom is whom, and here we have a little bit of both. First off, I recall that Thaya devised a scheme back when she left her weight loss program that comprised herself holding herself out as a doctor, and so this Sandra Cabot, along with looking like Thaya, seems consistently in tenet and name to be that which she schemed, which leads me to think that the resemblance is more than resemblance. I argued with her about her not having gone to medical school. Nobody would know, she said. So this identity exists on paper and wherever else, with a nationality of Australia, and what that means to the strategy of it I do not know. I honestly thought she was kidding. I had no idea that she would go through with this. But here it is or very much compellingly seems to be. So, the doctor thing is in my mind settled despite the airbrush technique applied to the nose. Then, we have just the issue of the dog lady of Iowa, who does not seem to be the Leesa who is posting on the board. What I see is that there is a woman who is very much loving of her town who takes care of the Animal Control issues as a concerned citizen as well as pet owner, and has a penchant towards the interests of Bull Terriers. She doesn't do a whole lot else. She may or may not know the person who is posting as Leesa, and so she may or may not have knowledge of the Rockman Record. Or, she may have moved elsewhere and Leesa here has taken over the house and duties for image sake, or anything in between. The point is, that the item that is most identifiable to the West Branch Iowa's City website image of Leesa Johnson, is the only of he images I have found here, which does not resemble Thaya. And so, gallytrotter is both her email, and this Leesa's, who is using it as well, it seems. The photo of the field posing Leesa Johnson shown in the Yearbook of 2000, appears more resembling of the 1978 Leesa Magoch Johnson in different clothes and pose, with what I notice are more round jaw lines, and a longer face, than the West Branch Iowa's Leesa Johnson. That is the most realistic assessment I could make based on the appearances, the logic (where does a lady in Iowa come off picking one music fan website forum to go to, and not any of the others that would suit her interests more closely? Why would she have such an inordinate attitude, being so far removed from the hustle and bustle of big city life? And why is she so detached, pretending that her small town is anomaly to other small towns? Where she claims that she does not even return a Mayor's voicemail? And why are her concerns of importance portrayed with such lack of importance to her?)the personality, the manners of expression, and the interests. There is one image on the montage that is not Thaya. And that is the dog lady in Iowa. I'm not perfect and if I'm incorrect I'll make an amendment with further evidence. But this is where it stands at this point. > I really think you should figure out how to superimpose > your replies to the post,all you have to do is to put the > cursor at the spot where the previous text is, and use the > "enter" key to make a space, where then you would type. > Finish that portion, then scroll down, and reply to the > next point. If you can accomplish convincing me that you > are not Thaya, good. I suppose that if it weren't for the > internet, for all its wonders, it would be easy, and > confusion is an evil of it. All I know is that you > continually supply me with reasons to think like the first > conclusion is the best conclusion, and it would pain me to > be wrong, because I understand how important one's > individuality is to one who is an individual. > > It is not anymore about how mean you used to be, but you > have to understand that on the scale of one to ten, with > Daveake being at an eight, you earned a rating of ten. You > said I was dangerous. You compared me to a murderer. You > declared me a threat to others. You slandered me right, > left, sideways and every other way, and the worst Dave > ever did was block me from his servers and be childishly > snide. Ryan/Rockfenris2005 was a contender for my sanity > on another different plane than Dave, because he was > saying that I did things and said things that I simply did > not, claiming this and that wild thing, which I disproved > handily. He has since apologized to me, but Ryan, being > Ryan, one never really knows what that would lead to. > Jack/Gibson et all who is the Rhode Island contingent not > being Justin, gave me another series of hoops to jump > through, when he pretended to be John Q. Public "Murray" > Kennedy, and presented me with a string of wild stories > and claims that just didn't add up. But what storytellers > have in common is that they are practiced in telling > stories. They don't bother to think of the credibility of > them, they will just make it sound good for the purpose at > hand. These people, Ryan, Gibson, they each have their > stories about me to weave, which have no form of > provocation from myself, and yet give me some challenge > that I either exist and use the logic, or get beaten at a > game I didn't particularly join. Justin was an early > troubled soul in 2005, who felt the need to run away from > me the likes of purpose I still don't understand. But he > told no tales, just really had problems with me being > here. Going to his forum on the other place meant I'd be > foolish thinking that he would not automatically delete my > posts, as I know when I'm definitely being singled out. > Here are four people, who for reasons not known by me if I > never came here had a predisposition to the kind of hatred > that was contained in your posts. You say you are sorry > because I got you into a corner, or you say you are sorry > because there is hope I might remove you from my website. > But you don't really feel that way, do you? I'm putting > you through paces that would not exist if all of these > circumstances had not taken place before this. And you > still seem like Thaya to me. Thaya by the way, is not > ordinarily common. If you remind me of her it is because > you are being unique in similar ways. So, the question > exists, and I'm not shutting the door, but they exist > anyway whether you think I am nuts or not. > > I made one of my not-so-great-looking montages, based on > two photos of you that I found, the ones you mentioned and > told me to find. I added it to the regalia photo of Thaya > sans her husband this time, and to two photos provided by > Leesa Magoch Johnson. In addition, one photo of the Dr. > Sandra Cabot, to show the resemblance between her and > Thaya, not necessarily the same person although not to > rule that out, but enough of a resemblance to be > concsiously connected by kinship. So, if you are not > Thaya, are you showing connections and ties to her? And > what sort of ties? > > See the montage, look at what I see. > > > > > Oh Susan, you are becoming a far more guilty pleasure than > > you should...you actually ARE very much like some people > > who were/are close friends of mine. You fascinate me and > > it pisses me off that you seem so damned nuts yet have so > > much to offer. I hate myself for being a bitch to you > > because I really like you ('I really really LIKE you!'). > > You're a really interesting person who definately should > > write and look at getting published(!)--I mean even rock > > fiction would sell millions--you strike a cord and I > > daresay you could make a fortune at that--I love the way > > you write--dramatic and lyrical--and compelling. You're > > wasted fighting here--even your ambitious website--god, > > regroup and market some prose. You're damned good. I'm a > > bitch and I don't praise lightly but you really have more > > talent than most than I've, for one, have ever seen here. > > Challenging posters here is a waste of time--uphill > > battle. Choose a more productive one. Because you're good > > and why take this shit? Just a gut observation and I do > > have a good gut. > > I do wish I could post as I did with past formats as you > > can--I can't break reply posts down line for line for > > without this format deleting all I've written upon posting > > and I'm time-challenged. But I do want to respond to your > > post. > > First off, I hope the weather's cooled for you because hot > > weather sucks my brain as well. > > Hon, West Branch is NOT 'every small Iowa town' because > > we're a bedroom suburb of Iowa City--most everyone works > > there or somewhere else off of I-80. We're Herbert > > Hoover's birthplace and the Feds own the large park(the > > parcel of prominent land they bought in the 60's) which > > was created like 35 years ago by remapping the town, > > rerouting roads, and pissing off the 'long timers' who > > watched buildings/houses bought up, moved and planted > > where they never were when 'Herbert' was here. > > We just have a real detatch that's closer to bigger towns. > > I've not been to the one grocery here for 2 months; I > > don't coffee klatch--if it involves me or my commission, I > > get a phone call or e-mail from the city letting me know. > > Nothing is assumed-except apathy. I know some people, but > > not at all like you're assuming of the average small > > town. > > Sorry to shatter illusions, but we're not the close > > community people envision. My husband's family left > > Chicago in 1974 when my husband's father's job was shifted > > from the Joliet Arsenal to Rock Island, Ill. They settled > > in WB as the kids wanted to attend University at Iowa. It > > was an acceptable distance each way.I met my husband > > whilst we we're at school in Iowa City. > > Oh, we don't have a drug store. > > Oh my god--we never have broccoli spears discussions--this > > town just isn't like that at all... > > As for Animal Control Advisory appointments, I made a HUGE > > spectacle in '98 when my dogs were threatened on the part > > of breed specific laws. What happened at that time was > > that WB found out who I was and how much trouble I was > > poised to cause. They then realised that everything to on > > the topic would interest me, especially if it involved > > bullies or pits. It was just an awareness thing. > > The mail for the city I pick up are the once a month > > mailings of the mintues and agenda for the next meeting. > > That is it. > > And as for reappointement to the commission,, who the hell > > else wants it? No one. Path of least > > resistance-reappoint. > > Oh, and you asked about the bull terrier site--if you go > > to the Bull Terrier Club of American website look up the > > rescue link under Iowa--I should be there, not sure about > > what else I'm under. I've not been there for over a year > > myself. > > Yeah, Jim's site here is really the only online space I > > feel connected to. When I first got on 8 years back, I cut > > my web teeth here and I feel safe. Kinda stupid, mainly a > > lurker, really regrettable behaviour somtimes, but again I > > owe Jim if not for a song, maybe for just a format. Many > > other sites would have shut this discussion between us > > down long ago. I never stop owing he guy. > > Yeah, when it comes to codifications, yeah, tat's me in > > politics... > > You ask me where's my life is beyond this website and West > > Branch's Animal Control Commission? Well, probably lost in > > Proctor and Gamble (I do retail merchandising for them) > > and my LIFE raising my kids and training my horses--other > > than that, I just implied that I never cover my cyber > > footprints on the web. > > Susan, it's been a LONG day--I'll answer you > > tomorrow--thanks for an interesting post--we're doing > > cosmetic resets in Walmarts and my mind is tired and > > fried. It was really cool to see your posts and I'll > > responds-- > > Thanks again and I also apologise again for being a bitch. > > I won't do that to you again. If you trust anything thrust > > that. i was as bad bitch.Bad BAD bitch... > > > > > > > > it > > t > > > During online sessions I get a little light-headed as > > > there is no air conditioning and the weather has turned > > > summer-like, it being the summer and all, so I did not > > > really make all the comments I wanted to make. I just > > > selected the most blaring and left a few things out. > > > > > > > > > > The city council, who votes on appointments here, has > > > > their own twice monthly meetings where such business takes > > > > place. We don't have alot of direct contact with them > > > > unless a situation arises or one of us has NOT been > > > > reappointed! > > > > > > The town is 2000 people, not 2,000,000 people. You see > > > them at the grocery store, you see them at the gas > > > station, you see them at the drugstore, you see them at > > > the mall. You see them out walking dogs, the ones you > > > regulate, and you see them at town celebrations. You see > > > them when you go and pick up your Commission mail (If you > > > take the notes you are the function as recording secretary > > > and also pick up the mail), you see them everywhere. > > > Direct contact? You know each other's names, you know each > > > other's children's names, dog's names, cars and license > > > plate numbers. You know when they are home or on cruises, > > > or sick, or happy. 2000 people is less than half the size > > > of my high school in New York City. It is the number of > > > people that fit into what used to be called the Felt Forum > > > at Madison Square Garden. Your town is the size of a large > > > club. People in this number travel to science fiction and > > > other types of casual interest conventions. People who > > > know each other have a tendency of recognizing each other > > > in places. You know every member on that City Council if > > > you have lived in that town for twenty three years, and > > > direct contact exists. What do they talk to you about when > > > you are looking at the broccoli spears together, gee, did > > > the Animal Control Commission meet this month? Do you ask, > > > what can the Council do to support the Animal Control > > > Commission? We are an advisory commission, you know, > > > nothing really, you say, as you pick one of the florets, > > > and say have a good day. Politics is politics. It is one > > > of those things that leads every discussion between those > > > in politics. You aren't in politics you say? You are on > > > the City website. You have a role in the City's > > > governance. > > > > > > When I was serving on the Friends of the library, I was > > > required to attend City Council meetings. I had to be > > > available to answer questions. Otherwise I was content to > > > leave the City Council where it was, but I did go to one > > > more meeting, and went to the podium twice I think, one to > > > make a comment about the condition of a newly constructed > > > square in town, where they happily left an old tree > > > intact, but where they ignored cracks in the new brick > > > work. I commented about the sorry condition of the > > > lighting connections in that area and so on and so forth. > > > Then I sat down and got back up when someone had a > > > question that had to do with a tax issue....and as I used > > > to work with tax issues extensively, I added the benefit > > > of my insight. The Council meeting did not have a small > > > attendance owing to the fact that many who didn't attend > > > watched it on their cable hookups, and those who did were > > > not a factor of your 3 multiplied by the multiplying > > > factor of 5, equalling 15. Everyone who had a stake in > > > what goes on in the city, had a greater tendency to be > > > there. It is the kind of city that feels like your > > > livingroom, an extention of your own home. Why does your > > > city of 2000 not feel that way to you? > > > > > > > > > >Our agenda doesn't include reappointment > > > > items--that is found on the city council's agenda--and I > > > > rarely attend those meetings! > > > > > > Who would like to make a nomination for membership in the > > > Animal Control Commission, where (insert number) terms are > > > coming up for renewal. Should we renew their terms, who > > > has something to say about the Animal Control Commission? > > > And they do all of this without your being interested? > > > Everyone is happy with all that the Animal Control > > > Commission is advising? Or is this the reason why someone > > > is able to put your name in the monthly minutes as if you > > > are there? > > > > > > There are two things in your life visible on the internet. > > > The only activity you perform either professionally or > > > casually, as a member of a commission that has no > > > particular meaning to anyone, and this forum. Where is > > > everything else? > > > > > > > > > > We worry about the need for > > > > cat ordianaces, pet shows and whatnot. But you have a > > > > valid query--but such are the politics of small town > > > > government...oh, and me taking minutes of the commission's > > > > meetings and not wondering about my reappointment is > > > > called 'no news is not changed news' because it wasn't on > > > > our agenda! > > > > > > What did someone wake you up and ask, hey Leesa, see > > > you're up, wanna be on the Aminal Control Comnision? We > > > hear it is a sleeper spot, its yours if you want it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > And no, Animal Control in and of itself is very different. > > > > I was chair of the Bull Terrier Club's legislative > > > > group--our focus was fair dog laws. > > > > > > What is their website? I'd like to see where you are, as > > > you say, "all over the place". > > > > > > > > > >As a concerned pet > > > > owner with experience working with city councils who were > > > > recodifying their laws, I got more involved with West > > > > Branch's recodification process which involved a > > > > tremendous amount of education. > > > > > > Now here is something interesting. More than one City > > > Council. You get around? What other City Councils? You > > > write the laws. Let's tell everyone what a recodification > > > process is. A recodification process is that which > > > rewrites the statutes and ordinances of a municipality for > > > approval by the governing body of that municipality. As a > > > concerned pet owner who doesn't care if the City Council > > > has anything to say to or about you, while you serve on > > > their Aminal Control Comnision, or is it that you just > > > feel so secure that you don't care? And with all of this > > > sophistication in your head, how did you get to single out > > > the Jim Steinman's Message Board for your only internet > > > activities? > > > > > > So much so that you had Jacqueline's direct involvement > > > when you did? Picking your one online interest, and making > > > it a point of attention, that you had no internet savvy > > > and isn't it special that you would choose Jim Steinman to > > > pay attention to and nobody else, and make sure it was > > > known, noticed, noted, and chronicled? What is your > > > actual history here? > > > > > > > > > > In 2002, our chief animal > > > > control officer, the then police chief, shot a dog (in the > > > > dog's fenced yard)which he thought to be the dog at large > > > > in question. > > > > > > Bumbling idiot. Who shoots a dog in their owner's yard? > > > > > > > > > > > > >It wasn't and all hell broke loose over where > > > > our 4 yr old dog laws went wrong. > > > > > > Nothing to do with dog laws, the guy was cracked in the > > > head. Unless you wrote a law that said that people's dogs > > > could get shot in their own yards? > > > > > > > > > >West Branch was under > > > > scrutiny of the entire state, > > > > > > Just the state? > > > > > > > > > >so our little group was > > > > formed at the-then mayor's request. > > > > > > And if you avoid enough of the City Coucil meetings it > > > would be like you don't even exist, either? > > > > > > > > > > Animal control per se is not something that I'm really > > > > involved in to a meaningful degree--the education of > > > > cities in regards to breed specific laws, especially as > > > > they pertain to my breed is what I'm better versed in. > > > > Other people do animal control, I don't I advise our > > > > animal control here as a hobby. > > > > I do apologise if I have misled you--you thought I was IN > > > > /wanted to be IN animal control and was a PART-TIME Iowa > > > > resident. Do you have any idea how many people in Iowa fit > > > > that more specific bill? We have 2 other 'Leesa's in West > > > > Branch alone! As soon as gallytrot/ter was mentioned, hey, > > > > that's me. Sorry for confusion. > > > > > > People usually know each other by their surnames if they > > > don't have the same ones, or their streets, or their jobs, > > > or their hair color. But you are special. With you, it's > > > your email address? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And as for the phone number, oh good god--319 is the area > > > > code--that's an Iowa landline area code. You call, someone > > > > picks it up---have a little faith--odds are it's eastern > > > > Iowa. Again, why would someone like me put in the added > > > > effort to hide my damned location? I mean after a while > > > > you just have to trust...if I didn't want to be tracked, > > > > I'd list my cell number! Call Liberty Telephone in West > > > > Liberty, Iowa--I've had the same landline since 1984--why > > > > would I reroute it? Believe me--if that number rings, it's > > > > ringing in Iowa. > > > > > > I am not misconstruing this an invitation to call, and I > > > have no reason to trust. Why would someone like anyone put > > > in added effort to be someone they are not? There are many > > > reasons. But it is a really special experience when they > > > would do that and be present amongst those to be hid > > > about. > > > Why are you not using Liberty's internet services from the > > > landline phone? They are almost half the price as your > > > mchsi cable dsl. I noticed that the corporate headquarters > > > of mchsi is in Middletown, New York, a small bit of > > > distance away from Wappingers Falls, or even Connecticut. > > > In a long streaming universe of possibles, you could be > > > buddies with someone in that vicinity who gives you the > > > IP, because they are the provider in West Branch, Iowa. > > > The most internet savvy people know, that an IP address is > > > only half the story. > > > > > > > > > > I again don't have a clue about a Dennis Radar--he was > > > > involved with animal control in Kansas? I have most > > > > contact with the Bull Terrier Club of America, the AKC > > > > club affiliate--names in our club I can trace and > > > > recognise. > > > > > > He discussed his attendance at AKC meetings about various > > > issues and breeds, in conversations with kennel club and > > > other Aminal Control people, and Bull Terriers are a > > > troubled breed, the Pit Bulls are. In Southern California, > > > no breed is more loathed or feared, not Rottweiler, not > > > Shephard, or Pinchers, none of them, but Pit Bulls. Pit > > > Bulls kill people, adults and children alike. > > > > > > > > > >Our breed club hasn't had tremendous problems > > > > with Kansas, say opposed to Ohio...but individual names in > > > > different states/cities don't really matter with the > > > > involvment I've had with this situation. I honestly have > > > > no connection with Wichita--been there once driving > > > > through on a family vacation about 40 years back---just a > > > > coincidence. Again, why should I lie? > > > > > > Why do you ask? You are being asked, where is the truth? > > > I'm assuming you are lying because there is something > > > wrong with the fact that the RH cult became an > > > uncontrollable living creature in and of itself by virtue > > > of the unstoppable compulsion of one person to please one > > > of their daddy's friends. And when the first Sal Piro > > > dropped out, a new Sal Piro stepped in, also to please one > > > of their daddy's friends, and its all in the family. So, > > > Sal Piro remains as the leader and former and all of that, > > > leaving the originator definitely out of it, while the > > > originator keeps watch, like an advisory commission, by > > > pretending to be a hapless internet unsavvy person who > > > lives in a small 2000 population town and can't understand > > > why there is all the fuss. Meanwhile I would be very happy > > > to find some area of irrefutable difference between you > > > two, but I find Tudor era meeting Tudor era interests,you > > > having designated yourself Lady with resembles Thaya's > > > designated "Baroness", resemblers to Thaya in the form of > > > a touted diet doctor's photo you having written only one > > > review, while the Leesa in Arizona seeks out a Hungarian > > > SCA group to place her energies there into. Rocky Horror > > > and SCA go hand in hand in many ways for many people, as I > > > have seen numerous times. I wonder why that would be. Lady > > > Greensleeves, what community does that name exist in > > > within the SCA? I stated Thaya said she wanted to be in > > > Animal Control and you say sharply that you have never > > > been or wanted to be in Animal Control, letting out the > > > fact that for years you have been writing animal > > > regulations in not just one but many City Councils, and > > > that for five years you have been on your own home > > > location's Animal Control Commission, but you didn't know > > > what I meant because you don't shoot animals in their > > > owner's backyards. You have been on many diets according > > > to your review of the diet doctor book, and Thaya was once > > > admitted to an eating disorder program where she gained > > > much insight into the nutritional substances and could not > > > say enough back then about how much she learned, so in > > > your review you are talking about the nutritional > > > substances, and so I still don't find any difference. The > > > only question I have is why Iowa? Is it because you have a > > > friend there? > > > Maybe the friend is willing to vouch for you on the phone > > > when SHE answers the phone in her house. Maybe you are > > > using her name, on this internet board, but exist > > > elsewhere? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm glad you found the Yearbook--that was such fun. My > > > > 'Elvis' was placed with Andy Hamen (a pretty famous > > > > wrestler fron U of Iowa) and his family had such fun with > > > > that puppy! They never showed him, but they did dress him > > > > up and printed tons of stationary-type things with his > > > > image. Palm Press bought that wonderful likeness and he > > > > was such a marvellous breed ambassador. So yeah, I wanted > > > > Jim to see MY life's proudest work--my 'Bad Moon', my > > > > 'Bat'...and yeah, I did flirt shamelessly. I'll never stop > > > > loving Jim...I'm glad you found that site--the Yearbook > > > > was a labour of love. > > > > > > You have a show dog as your greatest achievement above > > > your children? By the way, do you know that some people > > > say that Elvis was murdered? > > > > > > > > > > As for my driver's license, I just rather not have that on > > > > the internet. > > > > > > >If I'm so clever as to be rerouting landline > > > > phone numbers and whatnot, I could forge photos on a > > > > supposed license posted online. I don't want some numbers > > > > out there--actually, who cares how I look? What added > > > > proof is that? I think there might still be an old photo > > > > on the West Branch Government site--or e-mail any > > > > prominent sounding person on the BTCA's site and ask > > > > who/what I look like! I do still look much as I did on the > > > > Yearbook photo. > > > > But I did give you about as much proof as to who I am/not > > > > as I can. I've been honest and positive. I deny nothing > > > > that is true and have elaborated willingly as I have > > > > nothing to hide. I only get my back up when you accuse me > > > > of something I know nothing about. > > > > Don't know what else to do... > > > > Leesa > > > > > > If you WERE different, I could see you as different. If > > > you are just a small town person in the middle of Iowa, > > > what are your interests there? What is your life in West > > > Branch, Iowa, like? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey they updated it! I knew I was up for reappointment 2 > > > > > > months back, but I'm always the last to know--gotta learn > > > > > > it from the Rockman!! > > > > > > > > > > That's quite a shame that they didn't tell you in the May > > > > > 8th Meeting. Not only that, but it wasn't even published > > > > > on the June 12th Agenda. But really, do you actually have > > > > > so large and formal a burearacy that you can't know these > > > > > things? You've been on this commission already, and should > > > > > know that amongst the coffee klatch of you, you would have > > > > > continuity. And I find this far from your statement as not > > > > > ever wanting or having been in Animal Control, to the > > > > > point of a direct and known contradiction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >And that's my phone as well--if the > > > > > > kids are off the line people can even call me and hear how > > > > > > boring I am in person! > > > > > > > > > > Phone numbers don't mean anything. I have an Ohio phone > > > > > number, and when I was in New York for a year I had three > > > > > phone lines set up for me and Cypherd, where he could call > > > > > me locally from Los Angeles, and I could call him locally > > > > > from New York. Phone numbers, there are such a thing as > > > > > service numbers, remote call forwarding, standard call > > > > > forwarding, switching stations re-routing, and all of > > > > > that. Just because someone can call you in Iowa, doesn't > > > > > mean you are in Iowa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >They keep me on because no one else > > > > > > wants to take minute notes at the monthly meetings! > > > > > > > > > > So while you are busy taking minute notes once per month > > > > > you don't know you are on the Commission? Hmmm.....what > > > > > does someone call that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The > > > > > > city website should also have us archieved. > > > > > > But no, not to split hairs or contribute to confusion, > > > > > > we're a community ADVISORY commission and none of us are > > > > > > employed in nor do we participate full time an animal > > > > > > control capacity. > > > > > > > > > > Well that's pretty standard for a small town commission, > > > > > but it isn't the ceramics club. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This became a hobby of mine born out of > > > > > > my involvement with the Bull Terrier Club of America which > > > > > > was actively involved in combatting breed specific > > > > > > legislation in the mid 90's. I know an awful lot of > > > > > > people in animal control in Iowa and we come from pretty > > > > > > different places. I do rescue for the national club--I'm > > > > > > pretty specialised! I'm also involved in wildlife > > > > > > rehabilitation. > > > > > > > > > > One of those places Wichita? Did you know Dennis Rader? > > > > > > > > > > Thaya was three people removed from connection with Dennis > > > > > Rader, one person the man who she was very close friends > > > > > with named Jon, the second person Jon's friend Brian, and > > > > > Dennis Rader is Brian's younger but otherly named brother. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Between Wichita and West Branch is a bit over 500 miles > > > > > and it is less than an eight hour drive. > > > > > > > > > > The significance of Rader is multi-fold, not just his > > > > > infamy now, but his brothers' penchant for trouble, > > > > > starting in my experiences with Brian when I was > > > > > introduced to him in 1979. It was a horrid deal knowing > > > > > him, and Jon insisted he should join the committee for the > > > > > science fiction convention that I had founded, but Jon > > > > > placed him there without any particular job, calling it > > > > > "logistics". What those logistics turned out to be was > > > > > direct sabatoge of my involvement with my own convention. > > > > > During this time Brian told me of his two brothers in > > > > > almost the same conversation, or at least same location, > > > > > at one or two of the meetings, held at his own home in > > > > > upper Manhattan. He said of his two younger brothers > > > > > different things. The first he described was David > > > > > Westerfield, who became infamous in 2002, and the second > > > > > he described was Dennis Rader who became infamous in 2005. > > > > > Brian said he wants to cause the world as much trouble as > > > > > he can. Sick man. I could only suspect but believe I have > > > > > traced their lineage and other members of their family. > > > > > One of them seemed to marry into the family of one of the > > > > > men connected with starting up the assignment for making > > > > > the RH cult. It all is like a bad map, instead of all > > > > > roads leading to Rome, these lead to hostile and > > > > > imperialistic members of my family, through their own > > > > > associations. I would never choose to meet or know such > > > > > people. > > > > > > > > > > Dennis Rader was in Animal Control in Wichita. You say > > > > > that you met others in part of your National interests in > > > > > Animal Control. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One place you may not have stumbled on that alot of on the > > > > > > Rockman who were here in 2000 are listed and detailed on > > > > > > (at least where we were 7 years back)is the Jim Steinman > > > > > > Pacifica Yearbook that an very cool Australian fan put > > > > > > together. > > > > > > > > > > I saw that card. Very cute where you flirted with Jim to > > > > > the effect that you can't have him, etcetera. I found it > > > > > interesting that the first time I met Thaya, she flirted > > > > > with the boyfriend I was with, when I was with him, and > > > > > then told me I was being possessive. She had that way > > > > > about her, flirting the same as saying hello. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Do a google and it should pop up. My photo's > > > > > > there along with Elvis, one of my favourite dogs > > > > > > ('Gallytrot's Guy at Graceland') out of my last litter > > > > > > from '93. It's still floating about and JD should link it > > > > > > if she hasn't already. > > > > > > > > > > Whatever photo you have there I will look for it again, > > > > > but at the present time I'm most inclined to accept the > > > > > photo that is on your drivers license with proof that it > > > > > is on your drivers license. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gotta go chase the horses now... > > > > > > Leesa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >nor was I ever/wanted to be in Animal Control. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leesa, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is something of a kind of problem that I run into. > > > > > > > West Branch, Iowa shows Leesa Johnson on the Animal > > > > > > > Control Commission with a term to expire in 2009. See > > > > > > > photo of site: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > | |
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