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Klasien 10:04 am UTC 03/28/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Meat Is Over Jim??? - rockfenris2005 09:50 am UTC 03/28/13 |
| I agree with every word... especially the albums you listed lol I just feel that the direction Meat is taking leads him further and further away from Jim and his music... It's not a bad thing, per se... it just sounds like it would be a weird combo these days... As for More... After listening to California Dreaming a few times (too many?) I got kinda fed up with Patti's vocals... She's very powerful, but sometimes I feel she lacks emotion... I love her harmonies and back up... but am not so fond of her as a solo singer... And with his voice being what it is... Meat lacks the power to make More the statement it deserves to be. -K- > > Also, Bat out of Hell is full of characters. Meat > approaches those songs with characters in mind. But the > new album is different because it's more personal. > Personally, I like that Meat's moving in a different > direction and I'm happy that he was so happy with the last > two albums, except that I've never actually listened to > "Hang cool teddy bear" all the way through more than once, > and you're "talking" to someone who's listened to all of > "Midnight at the Lost and Found" how many times and "Blind > before I stop", which I quite like? I don't know what it > was about that album, but if I ever pick up the CD > nowadays, it's just to listen to a couple tracks and > that's it, like "Peace on Earth", "Los Angeloser", "Song > of madness", "Elvis in Vegas". The other day I heard the > Jack Black duet for the second time ever since I bought > the album three years ago. But I loved "Hell in a > Handbasket". "All of me", "The giving tree", "Live or > die", "California dreamin", "Our love and our souls", > "Stand in the storm", all of these tracks could have and > probably should have been released as singles!!! > > I thought "Handbasket" was the best Meat Loaf album since > "Couldn't have said it better" which I always liked, and > maybe just maybe I think it goes one better than that, > which puts it up there with "Welcome to the > Neighbourhood". > > But I like this direction that Meat's moving in and I > personally shudder at the thought of Meat doing new Jim > songs without Jim involved in some capacity. Sigh. But if > they're covers of old songs, I actually don't mind the > sound of that. Bring on "More". I was listening to the > "Wuthering Heights" version today. He and Patti could do > that. > > > Listen to the songs, the lyrics on HIAHB... > > they are so politically correct... with a hint of religion > > here and there ... > > The thought that a song like Everything Louder than > > Everything Else was sung by the same guy who did Mad Mad > > World or 40 Days (insert bucket here) baffles me. > > > > HIAHB is a man's album. > > A man who knows his place. > > A man who does his share. > > A man who is a functional part of society... > > A man fighting to make the world a better place for > > everyone > > A man who has dealt with the ghosts of the past > > > > BOOH (I & II) were a boy's albums. > > A boy who didn't want to know his place > > A boy who did his share if it suited him > > A boy who wanted to be more than a mere cog in the wheels > > of society > > A boy fighting to make life worth living and dreams come > > true > > A boy trying to fight off the ghosts of the past > > > > NOTE: I'm talking about the songs here... not the people > > behind them!!! > > > > > > I'm just saying that Jim's songs are all passion... and > > that Meat's songs have become about doing the right > > thing... and have been rather weak, carefully worded and > > safe lately... > > > > There's nothing wrong with either... but the rebel boy has > > become a grown man... and I dread the moment when this man > > tries to convince himself (and everyone else) that he's > > still a rebellious boy... > > Anyone who tries to convince others of something he/she is > > not... overdoes it, overshoots the mark... and invariably > > ends up alienating those he is trying to convince... > > > > > > That said... of course Meat mentions Jim at every turn... > > Meat needs Jim a hell of a lot more than Jim needs Meat? > > I mean... Jim always wanted to write for the theatre... > > and he's doing that now... and with success... > > > > And Meat? Well, he made a few nice albums and did a couple > > of more or less succesfull tours... but we all know that > > the magic did not come from him alone... > > > > > > I'm not sure I can put it into words any clearer... it's > > just a feeling I get when I listen to HIAHB... which I do > > often and with pleasure... > > Say what you will, like what you do... I'd be the last > > person to tell you you HAVE to agree with me... but there > > you have it... my thoughts... > > > > I've said it before and I'll say it again... Meat lost his > > edge when he lost his anger... > > > > > > > > -K- > > did that make any sense at all??? > > > > > > > > HIAHB makes it so clear that Meat is "over" Jim... > > > > I mean, really?? > > > > > > Who said that? Meat Loaf seems to be always looking for an > > > opportunity to mention Jim. Hee hee. Meat mentions Jim a > > > lot more than Jim mentions Meat. I just saw the new 3 > > > network ad that uses TEOTH for its Dancing Pony campaign. > > > How many times has TEOTH been used for ads in the UK? I > > > think at least a dozen times and its the nation's > > > favourite karaoke song. And Jim wrote the lyrics for a > > > West End show. And he scored a massive hit with Celine > > > Dion. He has had a great deal of success outside of Meat > > > but has Meat ever had a spectacular success outside of > > > Jim? However, I do feel a bit guilty about being negative > > > when it comes to Meat. When he and Jim have worked > > > together, the results have been magical and amazing. I > > > don't mean when Meat records a Jim song and Jim is not > > > involved. I mean when they are really working as a team. > > > Also, I do admire Meat for having guts and determination. > > > Some argue that BOOH would never have got off the ground > > > without Meat selling it the way he did. And even now, with > > > rumours circulating that he can't sing, he has just sold > > > out the massive O2 arena in London. Apparently the UK fans > > > don't care if he is shouting his way through the songs. > > > The band is great and they are too busy singing along to > > > notice the big guy's vocal problems. But I don't think > > > that Meat will ever be over Jim. I admire him but this is > > > why Ryan wrote a musical called Frankensteinman. Jim is > > > the Dr Frankenstein in this situation. > > > > > > > The boy has grown into a man and no matter how hard he > > > > tries, Neverland is forever beyond his reach... A mere > > > > memory, something that he dreamt about, something he longs > > > > for but can never have again... > > > > > > That's very interesting. Can you explain in greater > > > detail? | |
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