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rockfenris2005 09:50 am UTC 03/28/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Meat Is Over Jim??? - Klasien 09:39 am UTC 03/28/13 |
Also, Bat out of Hell is full of characters. Meat approaches those songs with characters in mind. But the new album is different because it's more personal. Personally, I like that Meat's moving in a different direction and I'm happy that he was so happy with the last two albums, except that I've never actually listened to "Hang cool teddy bear" all the way through more than once, and you're "talking" to someone who's listened to all of "Midnight at the Lost and Found" how many times and "Blind before I stop", which I quite like? I don't know what it was about that album, but if I ever pick up the CD nowadays, it's just to listen to a couple tracks and that's it, like "Peace on Earth", "Los Angeloser", "Song of madness", "Elvis in Vegas". The other day I heard the Jack Black duet for the second time ever since I bought the album three years ago. But I loved "Hell in a Handbasket". "All of me", "The giving tree", "Live or die", "California dreamin", "Our love and our souls", "Stand in the storm", all of these tracks could have and probably should have been released as singles!!! I thought "Handbasket" was the best Meat Loaf album since "Couldn't have said it better" which I always liked, and maybe just maybe I think it goes one better than that, which puts it up there with "Welcome to the Neighbourhood". But I like this direction that Meat's moving in and I personally shudder at the thought of Meat doing new Jim songs without Jim involved in some capacity. Sigh. But if they're covers of old songs, I actually don't mind the sound of that. Bring on "More". I was listening to the "Wuthering Heights" version today. He and Patti could do that. > Listen to the songs, the lyrics on HIAHB... > they are so politically correct... with a hint of religion > here and there ... > The thought that a song like Everything Louder than > Everything Else was sung by the same guy who did Mad Mad > World or 40 Days (insert bucket here) baffles me. > > HIAHB is a man's album. > A man who knows his place. > A man who does his share. > A man who is a functional part of society... > A man fighting to make the world a better place for > everyone > A man who has dealt with the ghosts of the past > > BOOH (I & II) were a boy's albums. > A boy who didn't want to know his place > A boy who did his share if it suited him > A boy who wanted to be more than a mere cog in the wheels > of society > A boy fighting to make life worth living and dreams come > true > A boy trying to fight off the ghosts of the past > > NOTE: I'm talking about the songs here... not the people > behind them!!! > > > I'm just saying that Jim's songs are all passion... and > that Meat's songs have become about doing the right > thing... and have been rather weak, carefully worded and > safe lately... > > There's nothing wrong with either... but the rebel boy has > become a grown man... and I dread the moment when this man > tries to convince himself (and everyone else) that he's > still a rebellious boy... > Anyone who tries to convince others of something he/she is > not... overdoes it, overshoots the mark... and invariably > ends up alienating those he is trying to convince... > > > That said... of course Meat mentions Jim at every turn... > Meat needs Jim a hell of a lot more than Jim needs Meat? > I mean... Jim always wanted to write for the theatre... > and he's doing that now... and with success... > > And Meat? Well, he made a few nice albums and did a couple > of more or less succesfull tours... but we all know that > the magic did not come from him alone... > > > I'm not sure I can put it into words any clearer... it's > just a feeling I get when I listen to HIAHB... which I do > often and with pleasure... > Say what you will, like what you do... I'd be the last > person to tell you you HAVE to agree with me... but there > you have it... my thoughts... > > I've said it before and I'll say it again... Meat lost his > edge when he lost his anger... > > > > -K- > did that make any sense at all??? > > > > > HIAHB makes it so clear that Meat is "over" Jim... > > > I mean, really?? > > > > Who said that? Meat Loaf seems to be always looking for an > > opportunity to mention Jim. Hee hee. Meat mentions Jim a > > lot more than Jim mentions Meat. I just saw the new 3 > > network ad that uses TEOTH for its Dancing Pony campaign. > > How many times has TEOTH been used for ads in the UK? I > > think at least a dozen times and its the nation's > > favourite karaoke song. And Jim wrote the lyrics for a > > West End show. And he scored a massive hit with Celine > > Dion. He has had a great deal of success outside of Meat > > but has Meat ever had a spectacular success outside of > > Jim? However, I do feel a bit guilty about being negative > > when it comes to Meat. When he and Jim have worked > > together, the results have been magical and amazing. I > > don't mean when Meat records a Jim song and Jim is not > > involved. I mean when they are really working as a team. > > Also, I do admire Meat for having guts and determination. > > Some argue that BOOH would never have got off the ground > > without Meat selling it the way he did. And even now, with > > rumours circulating that he can't sing, he has just sold > > out the massive O2 arena in London. Apparently the UK fans > > don't care if he is shouting his way through the songs. > > The band is great and they are too busy singing along to > > notice the big guy's vocal problems. But I don't think > > that Meat will ever be over Jim. I admire him but this is > > why Ryan wrote a musical called Frankensteinman. Jim is > > the Dr Frankenstein in this situation. > > > > > The boy has grown into a man and no matter how hard he > > > tries, Neverland is forever beyond his reach... A mere > > > memory, something that he dreamt about, something he longs > > > for but can never have again... > > > > That's very interesting. Can you explain in greater > > detail? | |
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