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re: The Dead Ringer Album: A Jim And Meat Collaboration???

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steven_stuart 02:11 am UTC 03/30/13
In reply to: re: The Dead Ringer Album: A Jim And Meat Collaboration??? - rockfenris2005 06:11 am UTC 03/29/13

Interesting. Maybe the truth will never be known. I don't think the Dead Ringer album sounds as good as albums actually produced by Todd or Jim.


> I'm confused about what really happened on that album.
> Just like I'm still confused if Jim produced "A.L.O. aka
> Quest for the Key" for Asia or not. I have it here in my
> playlist and it's part of the Steinman folder, but I'm not
> sure if he actually produced it, and Evil Nickname doesn't
> have the lyrics at his site. Hmmm....
>
> But I do remember Jim saying on "The other side of the
> tracks", the interview from 1984, that he and Jimmy Iovine
> basically agreed to leave the album by mutual consensus,
> I'm not sure why, I can't really remember that bit,
> because they were having difficulty with Meat singing?
>
> > > It's hard enough dealing
> > > with all these songs from "Dead ringer" that could have
> > > been bigger than they were.
> >
> > But did Jim have the same attitude towards the "Dead
> > Ringer" songs that he had towards the "Bat 2" songs? Was
> > "Dead Ringer" a Meat Loaf/Jim Steinman collaboration?
> > Obviously Jim was involved. Jim wrote all the songs. He
> > contributed the "Nocturnal Pleasures" monologue. He did
> > some arrangements and produced some backing tracks. But I
> > have read somewhere (I can't remember where) that Jim lost
> > interest in the project and this is why Meat Loaf and
> > Stephan Galfas were the main producers of the album. You
> > are probably right that the "Dead Ringer" songs could have
> > been bigger than they were (it took Barry Manilow to get
> > "Read 'Em And Weep" into the US top twenty singles) but
> > the album did go to number one in the UK. I would be
> > interested to know your "Dead Ringer" opinions.


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