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rockfenris2005 07:20 pm UTC 07/27/16 |
| In reply to: | re: Meat Loaf talks Jim Steinman reunion - Rolling Stone - asimon20 06:57 pm UTC 07/27/16 |
I think that's something that came out after the fact. I remember Meat saying on the forum years later that they wanted him to do "Alive" because it was going to be in a movie and then when he caved in and did it afterall, they ended up recording it with someone else! That version is out there somewhere. I heard it once. Meat said he didn't like that song because he couldn't see the truth in it as an actor. I remember Meat saying at the time that there would be about seven or eight Steinman songs and more like THREE non-Jim. Somewhere along the way that evolved... I wish they'd just done the Jim songs. In spite of everything else, it still would have been ALL Jim so it technically would have preserved the tradition. > Ha - I actually made the 2 out of 3 ain't bad joke when > Bat III came out. I remember all the politics, but Meat > said something about the record label forcing certain > things and Desmond doing things on his own and it wasn't > supposed to be this way... > > Do you remember anything about that? Have never been able > to get details. > > TMIL - I find 4-5 really good efforts/songs on the album. > Surprisingly - I actually listen to I'm Alive quite often > - I find it just a good song. > > > > > > > > > > Totally agree - good piece - except for the inaccuracies > > > related to Desmond and the Dream Engine. > > > > > > Question - I keep hearing the comments about the issues > > > with Bat III and Meat's hatred. Can anyone give me a > > > couple of sentences on what went down? > > > > Do you mean with the album in general? Or Meat's hatred? > > From what I remember (can't believe it's been ten years > > although how interesting that there's ten years between > > TMIL & Braver), Meat and Jim announced that they were > > going to make "Bat out of Hell 3: The Last at Bat" around > > the time that Meat was releasing "Couldn't have said it > > better". Jim was going to write the songs as always and > > produce, I think. Jim had called up Meat Loaf saying let's > > do this. Meat on his forum I think mentioned that Jim had > > written a song even longer than "Anything for love" (I > > think he was referring to "Going all the way" which would > > have been done on "Bat 3".) My Nan gave me a clipping from > > an article that she kept around 2004 where Meat mentions > > that they have eight songs, and how he and Jim passed each > > other in the street and Jim just said, "Hey, I've got > > another song." > > > > Next thing I remember Meat's airing one of the songs on > > the Hair of the Dog tour, "Only when I feel", after Rob > > and Over the top/Dream Engine play "Not allowed to love" > > and "Body" at the 2005 shows that year, leaving me at > > least wondering if those were some of the songs they'd had > > in mind. Around the time of Meat's tour, an article comes > > out about Michael Beinhorn producing the album with Jim > > still writing songs. This doesn't happen for whatever > > reason. Desmond gets announced. Then we find out other > > songwriters are getting involved as well *shudder* and > > Meat's doing covers. Then the whole argument comes up > > about whether or not it deserves the title. All this > > politics erupts over the title and trying to block the > > album, with lawsuits cropping up, and then they come to a > > settlement, and the album goes ahead for Halloween. > > > > "The Monster is Loose" is leaked early, Meat performs "All > > coming back" probably before that I think (?) on Idol with > > Katherine McPhee (name?), and then they put out the single > > with Marion Raven, album, and the rest is history. > > > > Meat ends up walking off stage towards the end of the > > tour. Fast forward three years, Meat's promoting "Hang > > cool teddy bear" and comes out talking about how much the > > album upset him and Jim, and how he almost chucked it all > > in completely. > > > > It's an interesting one for sure. I find myself listening > > to TMIL tracks quite a lot over the years. I do actually > > like that album on an artistic level, but more the parts > > rather than the whole (whereas the FOUR ML & JS albums are > > like complete entities in my mind), but also can't > > "reconcile" it with the other Bats, just because of > > expectations. > > > > But, you know, you turn around and realize something > > really funny. Bat 1, Bat 2, Bat 3-Two out of three ain't > > bad. Wow. Wow. Wow. > > > > Jim HAS to find that amusing. Surely. > > | |
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