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asimon20 06:57 pm UTC 07/27/16 |
| In reply to: | re: Meat Loaf talks Jim Steinman reunion - Rolling Stone - rockfenris2005 05:42 pm UTC 07/27/16 |
| Ha - I actually made the 2 out of 3 ain't bad joke when Bat III came out. I remember all the politics, but Meat said something about the record label forcing certain things and Desmond doing things on his own and it wasn't supposed to be this way... Do you remember anything about that? Have never been able to get details. TMIL - I find 4-5 really good efforts/songs on the album. Surprisingly - I actually listen to I'm Alive quite often - I find it just a good song. > > > > Totally agree - good piece - except for the inaccuracies > > related to Desmond and the Dream Engine. > > > > Question - I keep hearing the comments about the issues > > with Bat III and Meat's hatred. Can anyone give me a > > couple of sentences on what went down? > > Do you mean with the album in general? Or Meat's hatred? > From what I remember (can't believe it's been ten years > although how interesting that there's ten years between > TMIL & Braver), Meat and Jim announced that they were > going to make "Bat out of Hell 3: The Last at Bat" around > the time that Meat was releasing "Couldn't have said it > better". Jim was going to write the songs as always and > produce, I think. Jim had called up Meat Loaf saying let's > do this. Meat on his forum I think mentioned that Jim had > written a song even longer than "Anything for love" (I > think he was referring to "Going all the way" which would > have been done on "Bat 3".) My Nan gave me a clipping from > an article that she kept around 2004 where Meat mentions > that they have eight songs, and how he and Jim passed each > other in the street and Jim just said, "Hey, I've got > another song." > > Next thing I remember Meat's airing one of the songs on > the Hair of the Dog tour, "Only when I feel", after Rob > and Over the top/Dream Engine play "Not allowed to love" > and "Body" at the 2005 shows that year, leaving me at > least wondering if those were some of the songs they'd had > in mind. Around the time of Meat's tour, an article comes > out about Michael Beinhorn producing the album with Jim > still writing songs. This doesn't happen for whatever > reason. Desmond gets announced. Then we find out other > songwriters are getting involved as well *shudder* and > Meat's doing covers. Then the whole argument comes up > about whether or not it deserves the title. All this > politics erupts over the title and trying to block the > album, with lawsuits cropping up, and then they come to a > settlement, and the album goes ahead for Halloween. > > "The Monster is Loose" is leaked early, Meat performs "All > coming back" probably before that I think (?) on Idol with > Katherine McPhee (name?), and then they put out the single > with Marion Raven, album, and the rest is history. > > Meat ends up walking off stage towards the end of the > tour. Fast forward three years, Meat's promoting "Hang > cool teddy bear" and comes out talking about how much the > album upset him and Jim, and how he almost chucked it all > in completely. > > It's an interesting one for sure. I find myself listening > to TMIL tracks quite a lot over the years. I do actually > like that album on an artistic level, but more the parts > rather than the whole (whereas the FOUR ML & JS albums are > like complete entities in my mind), but also can't > "reconcile" it with the other Bats, just because of > expectations. > > But, you know, you turn around and realize something > really funny. Bat 1, Bat 2, Bat 3-Two out of three ain't > bad. Wow. Wow. Wow. > > Jim HAS to find that amusing. Surely. > | |
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