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pidunk 03:10 pm UTC 04/21/07 |
| In reply to: | re: Been Having So Much Fun, Thanks! - rockfenris2005 02:21 pm UTC 04/21/07 |
> > You're a fucking IDIOT! Jim is not Richard O'Brien or Jim > Cypherd or Celine Dion! If Jim were Celine Dion I would be very worried about alot of things. I am certain that he is not Celine Dion. But I think she had a great success with one of his songs. Jim Steinman is JAMES RICHARD > STEINMAN of New York, California, son of a man who owned a > steel-distribution warehouse and a Latin/Greek teacher. He > was born 1947, attended Hewlett High School (Tony > Kornheiser has the yearbook to prove it) and Amherst > College. Jim Steinman who was born in 1947 did indeed attend this school and the person with the yearbook probably has a photo of him in the book and has that to show. Fine. Except that he did not go on to Amherst. Someone else did. You may think that a juvenile entering a college using someone else's records might be a bad thing, but it was a desperate measure of several levels of necessities. There was a minor level substitution which granted the entrance to the school, and the person who we know as the composer did in fact attend Amherst College. But he was not the man who applied to the school. The man who applied to the school is Jim Steinman who attended that high school and so on and so forth. Neither person did anything bad.....it is not a crime not to attend a school where one has applied. It is not a crime to attend a school using someone elses' name. It was probably a hard decision for either of the boys to make at the time, and it was made without any awareness of mine at the time. At Amherst, he wrote three musicals: "A Man's A > Man" for the Amherst Masquers, "Baal" for the Island > Repertory Theatre and "The Dream Engine". The composer wrote whatever he wrote. I have no problems about this. > > During the original production of "The Dream Engine", > Joseph Papp of the New York Shakespeare Festival purchased > the rights for an Off-Broadway production. This is not > hearsay. I am not giving any issues towards any of the facts concerning the purchase of the rights to The Dream Engine, or its composition. There is no argument here. I have these facts from Stephen Collins and Barry > Keating, two of some of Steinman's oldest friends. When > "The Dream Engine" was cancelled (although there was a > production in Washington w/ Richard Gere) he worked on > more shows in New York and around; "Ubu" for Demian > (http://www.buddybuddy.com/s-ubu-s.html), "Rhinegold" with > Barry Keating which existed in several incarnations, > "Souvenirs"/"More Than You Deserve" with Michael Weller, > "Bloodshot Wine" and "The Confidence Man" at the Manhattan > Theater Club, "Kid Champion" with Christopher Walken, "The > National Lampoon Road Show" and "Neverland". He made it > BIG with the actor from "More Than You Deserve" and the > rest is history. There is more than that which is the history. I'm not taking anything away from Jim. Yes, he did do all of that. Indeed. I don't like it by the way, that Demian is not releasing access to the recordings of those compositions. > > Richard Smith/O'Brien is an actor who started "They Came > From Denton High"/"The Rocky Horror Show" when he was > fired from "Jesus Christ Superstar". This is the part where things get more mirky. Richard Smith is not the one who was involved with Rocky Horror. He is pretending that he was. Histories he has convoluted as factual are lies, and he lies and lies and lies. Yes, I could believe that Smith was fired from Jesus Christ Superstar. O'Brien however, not Smith, had numerous other works in London Theatre. Smith is a name we go feh to. The show became a > cult success, Well, it became a commercial flop, and should have been a commercial success. The cult success is another thing altogether. >Richard O'Brien is a public figure to this > day, a well-known celebrity, author and writer. There is nothing divine about celebrity, well-known or otherwise. The fact that Smith threw his falsity into the mixture does confuse things. I won't go into that crazy thing right now. It is a mess. >You are > the only person who has this sick and twisted and totally > fucked up view that they're the same person. T I look like I am twisted as long as you are not understanding what I am saying. Smith=dog turd, O'Brien=talented guy, Smith is not O'Brien. Let's just leave it at that for now if you can get that much of what I am saying. HEY ARE NOT. > Too many people would be lying if your story is true. Too many people are lying. > > And I am getting sick and tired of you going on about it. I cannot begin to tell you how sick and tired I am of this too. > Keep your stupid fucking piece of shit website where it > belongs, don't come on this board preaching your fucking > bullshit cause no one wants to deal with it. Everyone > thinks you are a psycho. They can think what they want, I can't help what they think. There are people who might say they think I'm a psycho because they know I'm not. That's where it gets complicated. >Everyone in the "Rocky Horror" > community also thinks you are a psycho. Especially them. I describe in detail the entire development of that community. >And if you even > think about publishing MY name on your stupid piece of > shit site you'll be in deep shit. What do you have to do with it? In this situation, there is nothing that I can do to alter what is true and what is not. What I do know, is that there are too many people indeed lying, and that is an awful thing. People are strange and behave strangely sometimes. The world isn't always the place we think it is. The person who is hurting others is the one taking their credit from someone deserving. There wasn't supposed to be any Richard O'Brien taking credit for Rocky Horror in this way that a cult would surround him. There's a whole background to this that is appalling. But it is not Jim's fault, not my fault, and is something that has persisted with an unrelenting strength. Do you think someone is going to say to me, 'kay, we'll get it right now? No. You are not them. They are not you. You have a higher sense of propriety. You have more to love, than they do. | |
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