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Pudding 07:06 pm UTC 02/09/09 |
| In reply to: | re: Think of it this way - Smeghead 02:06 pm UTC 02/09/09 |
| Had there been such a show back in 1977 then maybe history would have seen Bat Out Of Hell take a different course and the main singer still hold a note some 30 years later. But your logic in comparing the singer of a rock album with a musical stage show that goes through multiple auditions anyway is nonsense. > Of course it is hypothetical, but the logic still holds. > Everyone said in 1977 that Meat was the worst choice for a > lead Rock singer for an album. No label would back him. > Meat says Jim even wanted Kim Milford because he looked > more like a surfer. So if you held a stupid casting show > to let the audience pick the lead and it came down to a > big fat sweaty guy who with a southern drawl, or a pretty > boy who couldn't sing as well... history has shown which > one would probably win. > > > You're talking nonsense. You're giving a retrospective > > hypothetical situation and using someone (Rhydian) as an > > example who wasn't born until 6 years after the album was > > made. > > > > > If Jim had held a reality show to cast the singer for the > > > Bat out of Hell album in 1977 it would have been Rhydian > > > instead of Meat Loaf singing For Crying Out Loud. > > > > > > > He won't get recognition by doing a stupid reality show > > > > and casting some TV Bint as Wendy. > > > > > > > > > If Jim has produced a great piece of art then having a > > > > > casting show for one member of cast is irrelevent, because > > > > > the art is still there. > > > > > > > > > > Jim has done a lot of things in the past in the name of > > > > > 'art' and has recieved little or no recognition for his > > > > > work. I think it's about time he flogged the grollies off > > > > > of Bat Out Of Hell and get the recognition he deserves. > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure a casting show would bea good idea at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously the publicity would be a good thing, but I do > > > > > > feel Smeg is right: the show becomes a "product", as > > > > > > opposed to a work of art. You can't underestimate the > > > > > > power of the TV company, especially as Jim doesn't have > > > > > > the clout that ALW does. With the current climate around > > > > > > phone-in rip offs, the BBC (or whomever) may well insist > > > > > > on the public vote being final quite early on in the show, > > > > > > and not let Jim manipulate the ending he wants. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, I'm totally and utterly fed up with the sort of > > > > > > clones you get on these reality shows. Female singers who > > > > > > can't sing one note when 20 can be crowbarred in there, > > > > > > insipid male singers who all want to be the next Westlife > > > > > > or James Blunt. And some of the acting on the ALW shows > > > > > > has been rather cringeworthy - big doe eyes to convey > > > > > > emotion (works well in a TV studio - not so well in a > > > > > > theatre), "jazz hands" on the uptempo numbers (I have a > > > > > > vision of some blonde Joseph wannabee jazz-handing his way > > > > > > through Bat Out Of Hell!), and huge, cheesy smiles for > > > > > > anything they're not sure about. > > > > > > > > > > > > All in all, I think it's another academic arguement > > > > > > because, even if Jim wanted to do it, I can't see > > > > > > primetime giving up a slice of Saturday night for him. > > > > > > They might just do it if Jim was in the background and ALW > > > > > > was picking the acts - but do we really want to see Jim > > > > > > giving up control on another project? Have we learnt > > > > > > nothing from DOTV? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Jim and the casting couch are wanting a 'named' lead > > > > > > > for a brand new musical then they aint going to put that > > > > > > > person through the rigmarole of auditioning live on TV, it > > > > > > > would be demeaning to them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That said, I think a 'named' male lead and a 'Find Me A > > > > > > > Wendy' TV type show could work well. | |
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