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Pudding 11:49 pm UTC 02/09/09 |
| In reply to: | re: Phantom 2 rumours & show promotion - Smeghead 02:13 pm UTC 02/09/09 |
| You're only reading what you want to read, something you've accused others of doing many times before. The idea was to ' find me a Wendy' one person and NOT the whole cast and definitely not the male lead, because that would be ridiculous. Taking a punt on one person going through a public audition is hardly sacrificing 'art' especially when you have control on who you want to keep or get rid of. Nah Smeg, you've turned into a naysayer, even realists aren't this miserable. > I thought you were nspeaking of getting the recognition he > deserved, not recogntion for writing a jukebox musical > being cast by a cheesey reality show. > > I'm not a naysayer, I'm a realist. Jim announced the Bat > musical, Batman the musical, a dozen other musicals (see > Ryan's list), Bikers of the Round table, Bat out of > Nashville, Dream Engine, etc. Most are completely gone > and forgotten. Only Bat Musical is still supposedly > happening and there is no firm announcement of theater, > casting, or anything. The last thing Jim actually > released was DOTV. > > > How do you figure he wouldn't get recognition when each > > week it would be saying Jim Steinman's Bat Out Of Hell > > Musical? > > > > You really have turned into a Steinman Naysayer as of > > late. > > > > > He won't get recognition by doing a stupid reality show > > > and casting some TV Bint as Wendy. > > > > > > > If Jim has produced a great piece of art then having a > > > > casting show for one member of cast is irrelevent, because > > > > the art is still there. > > > > > > > > Jim has done a lot of things in the past in the name of > > > > 'art' and has recieved little or no recognition for his > > > > work. I think it's about time he flogged the grollies off > > > > of Bat Out Of Hell and get the recognition he deserves. > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure a casting show would bea good idea at all. > > > > > > > > > > Obviously the publicity would be a good thing, but I do > > > > > feel Smeg is right: the show becomes a "product", as > > > > > opposed to a work of art. You can't underestimate the > > > > > power of the TV company, especially as Jim doesn't have > > > > > the clout that ALW does. With the current climate around > > > > > phone-in rip offs, the BBC (or whomever) may well insist > > > > > on the public vote being final quite early on in the show, > > > > > and not let Jim manipulate the ending he wants. > > > > > > > > > > Also, I'm totally and utterly fed up with the sort of > > > > > clones you get on these reality shows. Female singers who > > > > > can't sing one note when 20 can be crowbarred in there, > > > > > insipid male singers who all want to be the next Westlife > > > > > or James Blunt. And some of the acting on the ALW shows > > > > > has been rather cringeworthy - big doe eyes to convey > > > > > emotion (works well in a TV studio - not so well in a > > > > > theatre), "jazz hands" on the uptempo numbers (I have a > > > > > vision of some blonde Joseph wannabee jazz-handing his way > > > > > through Bat Out Of Hell!), and huge, cheesy smiles for > > > > > anything they're not sure about. > > > > > > > > > > All in all, I think it's another academic arguement > > > > > because, even if Jim wanted to do it, I can't see > > > > > primetime giving up a slice of Saturday night for him. > > > > > They might just do it if Jim was in the background and ALW > > > > > was picking the acts - but do we really want to see Jim > > > > > giving up control on another project? Have we learnt > > > > > nothing from DOTV? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Jim and the casting couch are wanting a 'named' lead > > > > > > for a brand new musical then they aint going to put that > > > > > > person through the rigmarole of auditioning live on TV, it > > > > > > would be demeaning to them. > > > > > > > > > > > > That said, I think a 'named' male lead and a 'Find Me A > > > > > > Wendy' TV type show could work well. | |
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