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Smeghead 02:13 pm UTC 02/09/09 |
| In reply to: | re: Phantom 2 rumours & show promotion - Pudding 03:51 am UTC 02/09/09 |
| I thought you were nspeaking of getting the recognition he deserved, not recogntion for writing a jukebox musical being cast by a cheesey reality show. I'm not a naysayer, I'm a realist. Jim announced the Bat musical, Batman the musical, a dozen other musicals (see Ryan's list), Bikers of the Round table, Bat out of Nashville, Dream Engine, etc. Most are completely gone and forgotten. Only Bat Musical is still supposedly happening and there is no firm announcement of theater, casting, or anything. The last thing Jim actually released was DOTV. > How do you figure he wouldn't get recognition when each > week it would be saying Jim Steinman's Bat Out Of Hell > Musical? > > You really have turned into a Steinman Naysayer as of > late. > > > He won't get recognition by doing a stupid reality show > > and casting some TV Bint as Wendy. > > > > > If Jim has produced a great piece of art then having a > > > casting show for one member of cast is irrelevent, because > > > the art is still there. > > > > > > Jim has done a lot of things in the past in the name of > > > 'art' and has recieved little or no recognition for his > > > work. I think it's about time he flogged the grollies off > > > of Bat Out Of Hell and get the recognition he deserves. > > > > > > > I'm not sure a casting show would bea good idea at all. > > > > > > > > Obviously the publicity would be a good thing, but I do > > > > feel Smeg is right: the show becomes a "product", as > > > > opposed to a work of art. You can't underestimate the > > > > power of the TV company, especially as Jim doesn't have > > > > the clout that ALW does. With the current climate around > > > > phone-in rip offs, the BBC (or whomever) may well insist > > > > on the public vote being final quite early on in the show, > > > > and not let Jim manipulate the ending he wants. > > > > > > > > Also, I'm totally and utterly fed up with the sort of > > > > clones you get on these reality shows. Female singers who > > > > can't sing one note when 20 can be crowbarred in there, > > > > insipid male singers who all want to be the next Westlife > > > > or James Blunt. And some of the acting on the ALW shows > > > > has been rather cringeworthy - big doe eyes to convey > > > > emotion (works well in a TV studio - not so well in a > > > > theatre), "jazz hands" on the uptempo numbers (I have a > > > > vision of some blonde Joseph wannabee jazz-handing his way > > > > through Bat Out Of Hell!), and huge, cheesy smiles for > > > > anything they're not sure about. > > > > > > > > All in all, I think it's another academic arguement > > > > because, even if Jim wanted to do it, I can't see > > > > primetime giving up a slice of Saturday night for him. > > > > They might just do it if Jim was in the background and ALW > > > > was picking the acts - but do we really want to see Jim > > > > giving up control on another project? Have we learnt > > > > nothing from DOTV? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Jim and the casting couch are wanting a 'named' lead > > > > > for a brand new musical then they aint going to put that > > > > > person through the rigmarole of auditioning live on TV, it > > > > > would be demeaning to them. > > > > > > > > > > That said, I think a 'named' male lead and a 'Find Me A > > > > > Wendy' TV type show could work well. | |
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