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Klasien 07:47 pm UTC 03/24/10 |
| In reply to: | Freedom Of Speech? / The Meat Loaf Debate - steven_stuart 04:01 pm UTC 03/24/10 |
| what you lack is the capacity! K. > First of all, I would like to apologise to Dave if I made > an error concerning the posts of Mr. Wordnix on > Batmusical. > > I said that Wordnix was talking about Meat Loaf's rant > against WhiteOfHigh. I have to admit that this may have > been a mistake. > > Dave may be correct that Wordnix was not talking about the > above metioned rant. > > What Wordnix said was: > > "So he throws a tantrum at one guy who doesn't like the > video and I'm the one out? I responded as respectfully and > logically as possible, pointing out that Mr. Loaf was > yelling at the people who buy his records in the first > place and suggesting he should show some respect. Looks > like for once in my life I'm in the same club as Smeghead: > Banned from MLUKFC. In a forum full of Neanderthals, I > will take that hate and wear it as a badge of fucking > honor. > > Amusing though it may be, it still gives me the red ass, > as Americans say. I tell him to respect his fans, I get > banned. He tells a fan to go fuck himself in NO uncertain > terms, and no infractions for the star. One law for the > rulers and one for the people? > > Here's my proposition: Meat's just as much to blame for > "insulting other fans" and using what MLUKFC calls > "inappropriate language." Ban him from his own fucking fan > club forum, and show him that he's not special just > because he's sold records. He's still a human being, and > human beings respect each other for their differing > opinions. > > Jim's been tired of his shit for years, and now so are > we. > > Rant over." > > Then Evil One added: "I do agree that Mr Loaf should watch > his behaviour though. It doesn't make him look good." > > While I can't defend myself against Dave's statements, I > do wish to point out Evil One's statement in defence of > AndrewG accusing me of being childish for posting Meat's > comments on this board. > > I also think that another point I made is still valid. > They were talking about Meat's MLUKFC rants on Batmusical, > so AndrewG, why is it childish to talk about them on this > board? > > I would like to thank Conas for putting everything in a > nutshell when he made the following reply to AndrewG: > > "He wasn't stirring shit by showing us a message that Meat > Loaf posted. The problem with Meat Loaf is he has a > massive ego and very low self esteem. He takes offense to > anything negative and then goes on a foul mouthed rant. If > the loaf didn't send such an insulting message in the > first place there would be nothing to discuss. > > You also asked why he didn't discuss it on the thread over > at MLUKFC? You can't discuss anything over there > epsecially something that might offend King chief Loaf. > You of all people should know that." > > However, even though there is freedom of speech in > Britain, there are a few rules. One is that freedom of > speech should not be used for the sake of spreading hate. > Like someone calling someone else a daft cunt simply > because they don't agree with their post. > > Another rule that often applies to newspapers is that > someone must publicly retract intentional or unintentional > false information and apologise for their mistake. Well, I > am indeed sorry to Dave. > > I presumed that Wordnix was talking about the WhiteOfHigh > rant. It didn't occur to me that old Meat might often do > this kind of thing. As I said, it is very strange for a > big star to have a go at fans in this way. Jim would never > do such a thing. > > It is safe to say that Jim is in favour of free speech and > Meat Loaf is only in favour of it when it is what he wants > to hear. > > Before people accuse me of hating Meat, I would like to > point out that I do not hate him and I do respect a lot of > his work. I don't think anyone has ever interpreted Jim's > music and lyrics as well as Mr. Loaf. I also admire his > acting. He was wonderful in the episode of "House" that he > guest starred in. I hope that he will get a big film role > soon, now that he is managed by the super powerful Irving > Azoff. > > Its just that it was rather strange for a big star to > behave in this way. As Evil One said on Batmusical, it > doesn't make him look good. I feel that I can compare > these rants to the completely unnecessary video that Meat > posted where he asked about Jim's health. Of course he is > allowed to do that under the rules of freedom of speech > but one must wonder why he did it, when, as JD correctly > pointed out, he knows people close to Jim that he could > have asked, instead of making Jim's private business > public. > > However, Meat Loaf the artist, the singer and the actor, I > do respect. > > What I find amazing is that people talked about the Meat > Loaf rant but didn't post any congratualtions notes to Jim > for the write up he got in Classic Rock (see thread below, > click the link for pictures). Jim sometimes reads the > board and JD sends him posts that he might find > interesting. It would be nice if Jim knew that we are all > really pleased with the fact that a major UK rock magazine > was paying homage to his genius. > > | |
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