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re: "A second chat with Mr. Loaf"

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Scaramouche 08:14 am UTC 04/30/10
In reply to: "A second chat with Mr. Loaf" - rockfenris2005 01:44 am UTC 04/30/10

> "I don't know, I think we really should have just scrapped
> that project. When Jim walked away we should not have
> continued. And it was a sticking point - it just did not
> work. Too many people got involved and everyone began
> twisting and pulling in different directions and it was
> just horrible. I mean listen to that song The Monster Is
> Loose - it is just horrible." Meat is laughing as he is
> saying this. He's almost hysterical. I've never heard an
> artist sound so sure that something they did was so bad.

I think the main problem with Bat 3 & HCTB is that they were 'controlled' by Meat Loaf, and in turn he is compromising what the producers/songwriters can/want to do.

Meat has said himself he's not much cop at writing songs, nor has he produced much, yet I feel he was constantly 'contributing' on both these projects.

It's understandable, as they are his albums, but his best work seems to be when he just sings, and leaves the creation to someone else.

The other main problem with Bat 3, is that they called it Bat 3, and it therefore had a lot to live up to (which it didn't).

> "Dude, listen to it! It's just horrible. I don't know what
> Desmond Child thought he was trying to do. But it was just
> not good. And I should have walked away."

Desmond Child has done some great stuff over the years, and if he had just been allowed to produce a great rock record, in his own style, instead of the pressure of trying to do a Steinman (which he didn't), then they may have had a different & decent album.

> I suggest that the problem with Bat Out of Hell III was
> the decision to create, by committee, a version of what
> was supposed to be a Steinman/Meat Loaf collaboration.
>
> "Absolutely. I mean these guys they got in - just horrible
> - it's like trying to get away with a knockoff of a Prada
> purse. I mean Steinman is a $10,000 Rolex and these others
> guys, they're $5 copies."

True, but the buck stops with Meat for letting it happen?


> I'm curious to know if Meat Loaf is still in touch with
> Jim Steinman. And if they'll work together again.
>
> "Oh yeah. I owe him an email actually. He dropped me a
> line recently and we keep in touch. But it's definitely my
> turn - I owe him a reply. We're..." - long pause - "like
> brothers. Jim and I are like siblings. And we're closer
> than that, even. And like siblings - even when you have a
> huge fight, when you're at your worst and you don't even
> know what the fight is or who started it you still love
> one another dearly. We're like that. Jim is" - another
> pause - "he is one of the four most important people in my
> life. And the other three are my wife and my two kids. So
> what does that tell ya?"
>
> Jim Steinman is also a smart cookie, according to Meat.
>
> "Steinman really is a genius. No question. He's one of the
> two smartest people in the world - as far as I'm
> concerned. And the other is my daughter. Different types
> of intelligence - but they're both geniuses."
>
> And then we're back to Jim Steinman - and his influence.
> (Does anyone else reading this sense that a Meat
> Loaf/Steinman reunion might be on the cards?)
>
> "Without Steinman, I'm not talking to you. You know what I
> mean? It's that simple. Really. And without Meat Loaf
> there's no Steinman either. But we're not talking today -
> I'm not talking to you if there was no Jim Steinman. I am
> so close to him - I am attached to him!"


In other words, 'You don't happen to have any songs for me Jim? Please! Have you heard HCTB, I'm desperate!'


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