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Meat Loaf May Have His Faults...

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steven_stuart 02:17 am UTC 05/02/10
In reply to: re: "A second chat with Mr. Loaf" - Scaramouche 08:14 am UTC 04/30/10

But at least he gives us plenty to talk about.

> > "I don't know, I think we really should have just scrapped
> > that project. When Jim walked away we should not have
> > continued. And it was a sticking point - it just did not
> > work. Too many people got involved and everyone began
> > twisting and pulling in different directions and it was
> > just horrible. I mean listen to that song The Monster Is
> > Loose - it is just horrible." Meat is laughing as he is
> > saying this. He's almost hysterical. I've never heard an
> > artist sound so sure that something they did was so bad.
>
> I think the main problem with Bat 3 & HCTB is that they
> were 'controlled' by Meat Loaf, and in turn he is
> compromising what the producers/songwriters can/want to
> do.
>
> Meat has said himself he's not much cop at writing songs,
> nor has he produced much, yet I feel he was constantly
> 'contributing' on both these projects.
>
> It's understandable, as they are his albums, but his best
> work seems to be when he just sings, and leaves the
> creation to someone else.
>
> The other main problem with Bat 3, is that they called it
> Bat 3, and it therefore had a lot to live up to (which it
> didn't).
>
> > "Dude, listen to it! It's just horrible. I don't know what
> > Desmond Child thought he was trying to do. But it was just
> > not good. And I should have walked away."
>
> Desmond Child has done some great stuff over the years,
> and if he had just been allowed to produce a great rock
> record, in his own style, instead of the pressure of
> trying to do a Steinman (which he didn't), then they may
> have had a different & decent album.
>
> > I suggest that the problem with Bat Out of Hell III was
> > the decision to create, by committee, a version of what
> > was supposed to be a Steinman/Meat Loaf collaboration.
> >
> > "Absolutely. I mean these guys they got in - just horrible
> > - it's like trying to get away with a knockoff of a Prada
> > purse. I mean Steinman is a $10,000 Rolex and these others
> > guys, they're $5 copies."
>
> True, but the buck stops with Meat for letting it happen?
>
>
> > I'm curious to know if Meat Loaf is still in touch with
> > Jim Steinman. And if they'll work together again.
> >
> > "Oh yeah. I owe him an email actually. He dropped me a
> > line recently and we keep in touch. But it's definitely my
> > turn - I owe him a reply. We're..." - long pause - "like
> > brothers. Jim and I are like siblings. And we're closer
> > than that, even. And like siblings - even when you have a
> > huge fight, when you're at your worst and you don't even
> > know what the fight is or who started it you still love
> > one another dearly. We're like that. Jim is" - another
> > pause - "he is one of the four most important people in my
> > life. And the other three are my wife and my two kids. So
> > what does that tell ya?"
> >
> > Jim Steinman is also a smart cookie, according to Meat.
> >
> > "Steinman really is a genius. No question. He's one of the
> > two smartest people in the world - as far as I'm
> > concerned. And the other is my daughter. Different types
> > of intelligence - but they're both geniuses."
> >
> > And then we're back to Jim Steinman - and his influence.
> > (Does anyone else reading this sense that a Meat
> > Loaf/Steinman reunion might be on the cards?)
> >
> > "Without Steinman, I'm not talking to you. You know what I
> > mean? It's that simple. Really. And without Meat Loaf
> > there's no Steinman either. But we're not talking today -
> > I'm not talking to you if there was no Jim Steinman. I am
> > so close to him - I am attached to him!"
>
>
> In other words, 'You don't happen to have any songs for me
> Jim? Please! Have you heard HCTB, I'm desperate!'


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