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re: Bat Out of Hell III: The Version that Doesn't Suck! (a constructive hate-thread)

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milvago-chimango 08:40 am UTC 02/25/12
In reply to: Bat Out of Hell III: The Version that Doesn't Suck! (a constructive hate-thread) - Black-Fandango 05:37 am UTC 02/25/12

it's a nice idea and maybe somehow a wish of every steinman fan to render bat III into something more dignified. some years ago i've made up that personal bat III re-arrangement:

1. bad for good
2. original sin
3. a kiss is a terible thing to waste
4. it hurts only when i feel (an edit of live-footage and album-footage)
5. left in the dark
6. seize the night (cut-version of 5 minutes)
7. the future ain't what it used to be

concerning cry baby cry, land of pigs and it's all coming back to me now i am for some reason so much disappointed by the production and orchestration (land of pigs way is way too crude), that i cannot grow onto them.

> Like many of you, I was severely disappointed with Bat Out
> of Hell III. More than that, it really pissed me off! If
> anyone had even looked at me wrong on the day I listened
> to Bat III, lasers would have shot out of my eyes and
> fried their ass! But, over the years my hatred for it has
> somewhat subsided. Subsequent listening to both the album,
> and the individual songs have given me a more forgiving
> perspective on it (because there actually are more good
> songs than bad), but have also made clear the album's big
> problems:
>
> 1. The album contains too many bad songs.
> Yeah, I know, duh. But this problem goes deeper than just
> a few bad songs, they actually make the other song suck by
> association. The entire album is slightly ruined from the
> get-go by the terrible title track, and the awesomeness
> that is Bad for Good is spoiled by its seguing into the
> insiped Diane Warren-ballad Cry Over Me, ect.
>
> 2. The album is way too long.
> This might ring as weird complaint. After all, Bat III is
> actually a few minutes shorter than Bat II. However, Bat
> II never felt long, it goes by quick. With Bat III, on the
> other hand, you feel like your life is flashing before
> your eyes as you listen to it.
>
> 3. The album is way too LOUD!
> Again, another weird complaint. As we all know, Jim
> Steinman likes his music like he likes his life:
> everything louder than everything else. But, Steinman's
> music is loud in much the same way as Phil Spector's: it's
> a wall of sound, more big than loud. Bat III's screeching
> nu-metal guitars and thunderous basses actually give you a
> headache.
>
> 4. The album is badly sequenced.
> This one is harder to explain. The songs just seem to be
> placed in just the right order to make the problems I
> listed ten times worse!
>
> So recently I attempted to create a new version of the
> album which rectifies these issues. I cut out the bad
> songs (which helped problems 1 and 2), and put the songs
> in a new order (which remedied problems 3 & 4). To my
> happy surprise, I really liked what I came up with. It
> went by like lightning, and I enjoyed every second of it.
>
> Here's the track list of my version:
>
> 1. Seize the Night
> 2. It's All Coming Back to Me Now
> 3. If It Ain't Broke, Break It
> 4. Blind As a Bat
> 5. Cry to Heaven
> 6. In the Land of the Pig, the Butcher Is King
> 7. What About Love*
> 8. The Future Ain't What It Used to Be**
> 9. Bad for Good
>
> * - Yeah, I know What About Love isn't the greatest song
> in the universe, but I like it. What can I say? I'm a
> sucker for a good love song, and Meat and Patti's
> performances on it are phenomenal.
> ** - Add 15 seconds to the end of the song.
>
> I ask my fellow Steinfans and Meatheads to give my version
> a shot, if you like it better, yay! And if not, feel free
> to come back here and tell me how much of an idiot I am (I
> won't mind).


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