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Wilbury 09:59 am UTC 05/05/07 |
| In reply to: | re: A new album, perhaps... - rockfenris2005 08:20 am UTC 05/05/07 |
| Yeah. We're actually pretty much in complete agreement. It's just you think that it's conceivable that Bova and Rinkoff have recorded finalised backing tracks of 10 songs that meat can sing over, and I think it's not. :o) You're right tho about Meat's recording of No Matter What. The instrumentation is entirely by Bova and it's one of the best sounding things on the entire album, in my opinion. But I REALLY don't think it could have happened by now, which it would have had to if it was going to get released anytime soon. Consider just how long the Dream Engine thing has been going on. And yet when Rinkoff had that makeshift listening party, "all" he had was a bunch of unfinished sketches. They've had time enough to do three albums. And hell, they orobably HAVE recorded that much, but it's just alternate endings of Is Nothing Sacred and a million replacement keybaord parts for Safe Sex. perhaps it's all sounding a little cynical, but it's fairly obvious to me that something like this would take Jim for-freaking-ever, and it 99% likely to never happen. > > How do we know they're not complete though? I mean, if Jim > can write something new like "What Part Of My Body Hurts > The Most" whos to say those other songs could not be > ready? For all we know they're probably all in a finished > state. I mean, I have heard stories of Jim having an > insanely productive period after "Vampires" bellyflopped > on Broadway. Meat at MLUKFC years ago told me he received > 15 demos from Jim. The point is, Jim obviously wrote some > of those with Jim in mind. Yes, "Braver Than We Are" was > "Dance Of The Vampires" and "Not Allowed To Love" was > Batman (no one's sure about "God Has Left The Building" > though; well, aside from Jim and maybe Justin *winks*) > but, really, "Paradise Lost" and "The Monster Is Out Of > The Cage", not to mention "No Lips, Hands Or Butts" and > "The Powers Of Darkness" just reek of-HEEEEY THIS IS FOR > BAT III, THE LAST ONE. I think it's just a matter of > Rinkoff and Bova putting the tracks together and getting > Meat to sing the vocals. Look at VERY BEST OF MEAT LOAF, > those three songs could have taken years but they didn't. > > I think if they see the urgency of the market for BAT 3OTH > they'll go for it. They'll try and make it happen. I just > don't think Rob or Bonnie or anyone else is going to show > justice to the songs that were clearly meant for BAT III. > Now I'll be the first to say that Meat is not that > important in the Steinman scheme of things, still, I hate > to see something abandoned. Meat and Jim did that album 30 > years ago and TMIL is how it ends up? It's just not right. > They should at least finish it, as a special CD or > something, then get on with their separate careers. And it > should be now because no one's going to notice once the > 30th anniversary is past. If Jim can't do it, get Todd and > Rinkoff IMO. > > > > > > There is no way in HELL that Final At Bat, which is a shit > > house title that I will NEER accept cause it's crap and I > > hate it, could conceivably be released "in time for the > > 30th Aniversary" of Bat. Just can't happen. > > > > Not that that's overly relevant. They could release it in > > 209 with "30th Anniverary" slapped all over it and the > > marketing hype would be the same anyway. > > > > If indeed the songs Jim has listed all exist in a finished > > state, then I'm sure they'll berevealed to the world soon > > enough, and it's becoming less and less important to me as > > to whether they all come together on the one disc sung by > > Meat, or sprinkled here and there sung by Bonnie, Rob > > Evan, Meat and the cast of the BooH musical. > > > > So sure, I'd love Jim to leap into the studio with Meat > > with vim and vigour and record a great album withall those > > great titles (and a studio version of Great Boleros as > > well), but my main point was that I just can't see it > > happening. > > > > | |
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