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rockfenris2005 05:42 pm UTC 07/27/16 |
| In reply to: | re: Meat Loaf talks Jim Steinman reunion - Rolling Stone - asimon20 02:10 pm UTC 07/27/16 |
> Totally agree - good piece - except for the inaccuracies > related to Desmond and the Dream Engine. > > Question - I keep hearing the comments about the issues > with Bat III and Meat's hatred. Can anyone give me a > couple of sentences on what went down? Do you mean with the album in general? Or Meat's hatred? From what I remember (can't believe it's been ten years although how interesting that there's ten years between TMIL & Braver), Meat and Jim announced that they were going to make "Bat out of Hell 3: The Last at Bat" around the time that Meat was releasing "Couldn't have said it better". Jim was going to write the songs as always and produce, I think. Jim had called up Meat Loaf saying let's do this. Meat on his forum I think mentioned that Jim had written a song even longer than "Anything for love" (I think he was referring to "Going all the way" which would have been done on "Bat 3".) My Nan gave me a clipping from an article that she kept around 2004 where Meat mentions that they have eight songs, and how he and Jim passed each other in the street and Jim just said, "Hey, I've got another song." Next thing I remember Meat's airing one of the songs on the Hair of the Dog tour, "Only when I feel", after Rob and Over the top/Dream Engine play "Not allowed to love" and "Body" at the 2005 shows that year, leaving me at least wondering if those were some of the songs they'd had in mind. Around the time of Meat's tour, an article comes out about Michael Beinhorn producing the album with Jim still writing songs. This doesn't happen for whatever reason. Desmond gets announced. Then we find out other songwriters are getting involved as well *shudder* and Meat's doing covers. Then the whole argument comes up about whether or not it deserves the title. All this politics erupts over the title and trying to block the album, with lawsuits cropping up, and then they come to a settlement, and the album goes ahead for Halloween. "The Monster is Loose" is leaked early, Meat performs "All coming back" probably before that I think (?) on Idol with Katherine McPhee (name?), and then they put out the single with Marion Raven, album, and the rest is history. Meat ends up walking off stage towards the end of the tour. Fast forward three years, Meat's promoting "Hang cool teddy bear" and comes out talking about how much the album upset him and Jim, and how he almost chucked it all in completely. It's an interesting one for sure. I find myself listening to TMIL tracks quite a lot over the years. I do actually like that album on an artistic level, but more the parts rather than the whole (whereas the FOUR ML & JS albums are like complete entities in my mind), but also can't "reconcile" it with the other Bats, just because of expectations. But, you know, you turn around and realize something really funny. Bat 1, Bat 2, Bat 3-Two out of three ain't bad. Wow. Wow. Wow. Jim HAS to find that amusing. Surely. | |
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