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re: Is Lietmotif The Same As A Reprise?

Posted by:
Wilbury 06:48 am UTC 05/13/07
In reply to: Is Lietmotif The Same As A Reprise? - pidunk 06:16 am UTC 05/13/07

I have no musical education or training, just a huge interest and energy to devote to learning. And my understanding (which is open to be shot down, with well reasoned logic and perhaps sources :o) ) is thus:

A reprise is a repeat or re-occurance of a piece, a resolved piece of content. This resolved piece may form one part of a larger whole, such as a song within a score.

A LietMotif is a repeat or re-occurance of one ELEMENT of a piece but within a slightly different context and surrounding in order to self-reference and strengthen the cohesiveness of the whole.

The difference is, like all things (and especially in the arts), entirely in the context.

THEREFORE: Jim does both of these things, and on top of them, he also recycles. Which is something different again, unless Jim's work as a whole was to be viewed as one cohesive piece which is meant to be taken together. I think that would be an incredible stretch of the definition of LietMotif, tho.

I know he himself in his blog has suggested that it is some sort of LietMotif when he recycles. It's interesting.

>
> I have spent my musical listening lifetime taking
> "reprise" for granted. What is it, a repetition of a
> portion of a song, in another song, or later in the
> collection. Reprises are everywhere. Nobody stood and told
> me that it was anything but a reminder of what had been in
> the works before. But what if a reprise is meant to be
> more than just a repetition? What if, a reprise really is
> the same as a lietmotif, and what if "recycling" is all
> that?
>
> I found this webpage, > href="http://www.filmsound.org/gustavo/leitmotif-revisted.htm">Leitmotif
> revisited That discusses the Wagner treatment of
> Leitmotifs. It seems so familiar, as if describing the
> elemental purpose of reprises. What if a reprise is the
> crude form, and the leitmotif the classical form of the
> same structural movement?
>
>


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