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re: The ULTIMATE Steinman "what-if" IMO is...

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rockfenris2005 09:50 am UTC 07/30/07
In reply to: re: The ULTIMATE Steinman "what-if" IMO is... - Pudding 09:13 am UTC 07/30/07


> A lot of people to this day don't know Jim Steinman is,
> yet, they might have heard of one of his songs, but they
> don't know who he is. Presuming that Phantom would
> suddenly catapult him into mega-stardom and an household
> name is a little naive. He may or may not have garnered
> popularity through Phantom, but the flip side of the coin
> is, would Phantom be what it is today had Jim wrote the
> lyrics?

I think it would be. Andrew Lloyd Webber was on the top of the world at the time. It didn't matter *who* he collaborated with, it was going to be a hit. He just had "Cats", "Song & Dance" and "Starlight Express", all major hits in London. Because of Phantom's popularity as a movie, it probably would have succeeded no matter who the lyricist was. And even if no one *did* know Steinman did the lyrics, he'd still have a more impressive resume and "Neverland" would have been done years ago.
>
> Jekyll & Hyde is crap IMO, boring! boring! boring!

Depends which version you're familiar with. "The Complete Work" and the Bremen show is totally insane. The Broadway version was watered down because they were afraid of putting in too many horror/gore sequences. It could have been one of the first "blood & guts" shows on Broadway, despite the music.

Tanz
> was never given a fair chance on Broadway, because they
> ripped the still beating heart right out if and stomped on
> its soul. The two Vampire musicals that followed Lestat
> and Dracula were complete boring drivel.

"Dracula" and "Lestat", in their Broadway mountings, were awful. "Dracula" was interesting before it was ruined on Broadway. It could have worked as an effective chamber piece. Any show that has only three synthesizers in the pit and Dracula flying across stage horizontally has got to be stupid. IMO. "Lestat", well... I don't need to say, for the hundredth time, that WB would have scored big with "Batman" by Steinman and Ives.
>
> Yes, Tanz in London is the way to go, then hopefully Vega,
> followed by LA and Toronto.

It only has to succeed in London, or as a movie, to redeem itself from the Broadway show.

Another "what if": what if "Neverland" got made in the 1980s? Based on the "Bad For Good" videos, it could have been one of the strangest, screwed-up cult films of all time. Like "Rocky Horror Show" meets something out of "Clockwork Orange".




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