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re: The Natives Are Restless Tonight ?!?

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Scaramouche 01:17 pm UTC 08/05/07
In reply to: re: The Natives Are Restless Tonight ?!? - pidunk 11:22 am UTC 08/05/07

Hmmm...'interesting'!? LOL


>> Here is a thing that I have been thinking of when someone
> says something like this but I have not actually come up
> with the analogy that could fit it. However, now that I
> have, it is "playroom". When I was in nursery (pre-school)
> school especially, and also kindergarten, the children
> were left ostensibly to themselves with the various toys
> and craft supplies, to make a day of play and interaction
> amongst themselves. The children had to be there, and
> there was the level of discipline that came when a child
> acted out or did not behave socially. If a child was
> bored, of course behaviors were associated with that as
> well. The reason why this seems like a playroom is because
> some people seem to think like they have to be here, even
> when they state indirectly or directly that there isn't
> any reason to be here. Children in pre-school and
> kindergarten don't usually have social avenues after
> school, or between school days with the children they are
> in school with, so if they were to be able to choose, on
> the criteria of their friendships, to be in the playroom
> on a rainy sunday, then they may do that if only because
> their friends are there, and bored out of their minds,
> they would have those irritable behaviors. But, on the
> internet, there are numerous avenues for outside
> communications to be in touch with friends. There is
> email, telephone, instant messaging, group chats, and all
> that exists, either in text mode, in rich-text mode, html,
> and even in multimedia collaboration sites. So, if one is
> attached to having interaction with a friend, one can
> check in with their friend and see about the news or
> shares of the day, while they wait for a reason to come
> back to the fan site. If they come back to the fan site
> and there is nothing of interest for them there while they
> are there, and they say that they act out because there is
> nothing of interest for them while they are there, why
> blame the artist of whom they are a fan? Why blame the
> site administrator? Why blame anyone, including someone
> like me, at all? Why not find the interests that also
> comprise your life and include them in the interests while
> interacting with friends. In any land-based community,
> there is more than only one place where people meet. They
> don't meet at the church when there isn't a function going
> on at the church but they want to see each other. When
> they want to see each other and there is nothing going on
> at the church they go some other place, like the coffee
> shop, scrabble tournament, or they see a show playing
> nearby. They don't call up the reverend and say, hey
> reverend, you give us nothing to do today, so we are going
> to see what colors to paint your fence!
>
> I have not seen enough fan sites to really know what is
> different from them to this one, but he ones I have seen
> do appear to be much different. I see that people post
> when there is something to post, and when there is not,
> they are not posting. They seem to have diverse enough
> interests and sufficiency in their internet activities to
> go where they want to go when there is a reason for going
> there, and not to be there when there is not.
>
> All I am saying is, that just because there is no new news
> from Jim, or any of the array of activities of his own
> children, being his songs, does not mean that the fans
> need to act like children themselves and be where they
> have no reason to be, if they will be blameful and
> disruptive when they personally themselves don't feel
> there is a reason for being there. If your land-based life
> is boredom filled, does that mean that you perform
> mischief on it, or do you try to find ways to occupy
> yourself in an interesting way?
>
> The natives are not locked into this vessel, this port.
> They can move about, they can investigate the landscapes
> and then come back with refreshed minds for their
> activities here, instead of being pre-occupied with what
> trivialities exist that they have no interest in. In other
> words, if the natives are restless, what are they stuck on
> being on this page for?
>
> And for that, how much of the page is to blame?
>
>
> I don't really know, because the site for a songwriter is
> definitely a different kind of dynamic than the site of a
> band like KISS, where there are songs and boxed sets and
> tours to go around, and I don't know because I don't
> regularly go to fan sites, not even Meatloaf's, and yet,
> fans could in themselves have a sociological phenomenon
> that creates a certain kind of beast quality in a group
> mind. The thing that seems to be the most disruptive in a
> fan board or any group is when some members find
> favoritism in face-to-face experiences with the other
> members, and so the internet is a vehicle for those to
> manifest those friendships they don't otherwise have the
> courage to pursue off of the fan board, and so they
> mingle, they linger, they even feel like because they are
> friends, they have a reason for being here. And then they
> blame the board for its not providing the forum of
> entertainment. It seems to me like there is the friendship
> hungry participants who use the board for their
> un-threatening place to stay with their friends they meet
> on trips, and there is the friendship hungry participants
> who do not meet the others on trips but who find that the
> others are so much like friends that they find their
> social outlet here. A fan community is not really able to
> fulfill all of those requirements without some major
> understandings that there must be peace amongst those who
> are dwelling, and that it is not the responsibility of the
> board host to entertain them. Some boards have fans who
> start NJC threads that go on and on, with games and
> activities. I don't know what I think of those per se, but
> I do know that these fans take their playroom, and make a
> happy playroom of part of it, and don't feel restless.
>
> As I am saying, it is for Rink and/or Jim to do what they
> must do for their projects, and not worry so much about
> whether or not this board is entertained in between their
> readiness to present them.
>
> Respectfully to all,
>
> Susan
>
>


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