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re: Phantom 2 rumours & show promotion

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Pudding 03:51 am UTC 02/09/09
In reply to: re: Phantom 2 rumours & show promotion - Smeghead 03:12 am UTC 02/09/09

How do you figure he wouldn't get recognition when each week it would be saying Jim Steinman's Bat Out Of Hell Musical?

You really have turned into a Steinman Naysayer as of late.

> He won't get recognition by doing a stupid reality show
> and casting some TV Bint as Wendy.
>
> > If Jim has produced a great piece of art then having a
> > casting show for one member of cast is irrelevent, because
> > the art is still there.
> >
> > Jim has done a lot of things in the past in the name of
> > 'art' and has recieved little or no recognition for his
> > work. I think it's about time he flogged the grollies off
> > of Bat Out Of Hell and get the recognition he deserves.
> >
> > > I'm not sure a casting show would bea good idea at all.
> > >
> > > Obviously the publicity would be a good thing, but I do
> > > feel Smeg is right: the show becomes a "product", as
> > > opposed to a work of art. You can't underestimate the
> > > power of the TV company, especially as Jim doesn't have
> > > the clout that ALW does. With the current climate around
> > > phone-in rip offs, the BBC (or whomever) may well insist
> > > on the public vote being final quite early on in the show,
> > > and not let Jim manipulate the ending he wants.
> > >
> > > Also, I'm totally and utterly fed up with the sort of
> > > clones you get on these reality shows. Female singers who
> > > can't sing one note when 20 can be crowbarred in there,
> > > insipid male singers who all want to be the next Westlife
> > > or James Blunt. And some of the acting on the ALW shows
> > > has been rather cringeworthy - big doe eyes to convey
> > > emotion (works well in a TV studio - not so well in a
> > > theatre), "jazz hands" on the uptempo numbers (I have a
> > > vision of some blonde Joseph wannabee jazz-handing his way
> > > through Bat Out Of Hell!), and huge, cheesy smiles for
> > > anything they're not sure about.
> > >
> > > All in all, I think it's another academic arguement
> > > because, even if Jim wanted to do it, I can't see
> > > primetime giving up a slice of Saturday night for him.
> > > They might just do it if Jim was in the background and ALW
> > > was picking the acts - but do we really want to see Jim
> > > giving up control on another project? Have we learnt
> > > nothing from DOTV?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If Jim and the casting couch are wanting a 'named' lead
> > > > for a brand new musical then they aint going to put that
> > > > person through the rigmarole of auditioning live on TV, it
> > > > would be demeaning to them.
> > > >
> > > > That said, I think a 'named' male lead and a 'Find Me A
> > > > Wendy' TV type show could work well.


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