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rockfenris2005 05:51 am UTC 07/16/11 |
| In reply to: | re: Meat Loaf Vs Barry Manilow - Vin 01:50 am UTC 07/14/11 |
"I don't listen to Barry Manilow, however. I think he's ridiculous. But I thought it was NOT ridiculous to produce him. They asked me if I could produce this song that had already been on a Meat Loaf album ('Read 'Em And Weep' from the 'Dead Ringer' LP or was it 'Nose Out Of Hell'? -Ed.), and they said they were going to do it whether I was involved or not. And I hate the idea of one of my songs being done without my control, and I knew what a Manilow version of the song would be like if I didn't produce it. Plus, they offered me lots of money, which I used to finance other projects. "The version I did unfortunately never got heard - he refused to release it, and I had to remix it. It was very powerful, though, some of the best guitars and loudest drums I've ever put on." > I think Meat's rendition destroys Barry's. And I know, > Jim wholly produced Barry's, and on Meat's he maybe had > his fingers in the pie of the basic tracks, maybe not even > that. I agree with everyone who says Barry's vocals are > cold, emotionless, robotic, uninspiring, whatever... But > I found that even the production that Jim did for Barry > was bland by Jim's standards. I've honestly only listened > to it maybe, oh, 8 or 9 times in 15 years or so, that's > how much it moved me. Or didn't. I don't have it handy > right now to brush up on it, but my best recollection is > that the whole thing left me with a feeling akin to blue > balls; I kept waiting for it to "Steinman Up," the > anticipation mounting more and more as the song rolls on, > waiting for... something, anything... something Steinmany, > and then it never really came. As I didn't :) Maybe Jim > just couldn't pull what he needed out of Barry, so he > didn't bother pushing for something that wasn't there. > > But as for Meat's version - I think its one of his best > vocals on Dead Ringer (which I know is arguably not saying > much.) I really enjoy Meat's deeper register on this > song, and I think his voice is genuinely good throughout, > up until it starts to crack a bit on the "For all the > hours we'll be spending alone..." bit toward the end. > > Oh, and as to the new verse in Barry's version... It had > always sort of rankled me that Jim repeated a verse in > Meat's version. It struck me as laziness, like, can you > really not come up with one more lousy verse? But then, > for Barry, it seems Jim just went and came up with one > more lousy verse. Maybe I'm being harsh, but I'm not fond > of the extra verse Jim wrote for Barry's version. Its > always felt to me like Jim just decided he needed another > verse and rushed one out, the first passable stanza he > could come up with. Its not bad, really, but it just seems > very rote by Jim's standards, and doesn't really add much > to the song. > > > > > > > > > > > As for Barry's, I'm about to hear it now. It's been too > > > long. > > I thought the same until I went to youtube and heard it. > > Manilow has absolutely no emotion and leaves the song cold > > to me. Meat's live version on youtube (if it is still > > there) was miles better than Barry's live version I > > watched as well. On his worst day vocally (aka > > Dortmund)I'd still listen to Meat's first without > > question. | |
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