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pidunk 01:51 am UTC 06/30/07 |
| In reply to: | re: Hello...hello....hello....(simulated echo sound) - Leesa 01:41 am UTC 06/30/07 |
| Go back to the posts you should have objected to, and be specific. "No" and "not" are negatives, and you can't prove a negative. Go ahead, tell me and everyone why you took this all so far out of context that it is on several pages back? And why are you even muddling the things I said here? Muddling, Mudding, confusing, another set of patterned deceptions. You may be on the side of those who train others not to know fact from lies, but I know the difference. And I also know how to show it. If you have truth, you will be intellectually stronger in your arguments than I can be. Meanwhile all you have so far is desperation and insult, derision and confusion. They may have worked for you before, but they can't work for you here. > Completely wrong person, wrong place, wrong time. I don't > know who the fuck Richard Smith is, I was overseas with a > maiden name for the 2 yr period she claims to have called > me--my god, it goes on and on. Never lived in Arizona , > Montana, nor was I ever/wanted to be in Animal Control. > I believe Susan has NOT won the dining room set tonight! > She's hateful, inaccurate, confused. And just what WERE my > interests back in 1980? Who the hell remembers? I don't! > Leesa > > > > > > > > Susan, > > > I'm gonna break my 'don't feed the sick troll' rule once. > > > > And I will break my "don't reply to Leesa rule" here. > > > > > In your sorry defence I must say that you are a very > > > entertaining individual who has perhaps more creativity > > > than most states' populous combined. > > > > I honestly don't. But I guess at times of stress I have > > the crucial sense of humor. > > > > > > >The 'muse', or > > > whatever it is, certainly has infused you. You are > > > actually a guilty pleasure of mine in the way some people > > > devour romance novels...if you'd re-reined half of the > > > energy you've put into your website ramblings alone, you > > > really could have impacted the world in an amazingly > > > positive way. > > > > Actually some people may prefer I place my energy here > > than elsewhere, because my other website is a doozy. > > > > > > > I have no idea what you've been hospitalised for in the > > > past or the exact nature of your disorder, but it truly is > > > sad you can't get your proverbial shit together. > > > > Yes indeed, this is something that troubles me as well. As > > I've explained rather, er, imaginatively you say, but > > factually in real, my life has certain unique features and > > difficulties not of my own making nor control. And, not of > > sickness, but impedements. I don't expect you to > > understand, not the details per se, but surely you must > > have some insight that some lives are inherently more > > complicated than others. I'm not a "Drew Barrymore" with > > drug problems like she has had, that I must overcome. I am > > not a mental defective, mentally ill person. But demands > > are placed on my stamina to think and to live, on a > > persistent basis. My ability to "get my shit together" is > > directly proportional with a combination of the effects of > > my heart condition, and the reductions of impetus of > > outsiders to shove their necks into my business. > > > > > > > > >Because > > > you're really very interesting. And it's obvious that Jim, > > > Richard O'Brien, and others have really impacted you on > > > alot of levels. > > > > Actually all this is a big pain in the ass. > > > > > > >They've impacted me as well. > > > I'm going out on an unpopular limb here and say that > > > you're really one of the most intelligent, intriguing > > > people that have posted here in 10 years. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > But you're nuts. > > > > Uh, well, no, but I eat nuts. Does that mean that I am > > what I eat? Hmmmm.....what I am is put upon, imposed on, > > by these circumstances that I rather did not exist, but > > finding them urges me to counter for lack of another > > possibility to acquiesce. Is it something I expected? No, > > is it something I like? No. Do I wish that I knew how to > > handle it better? Yes. But if handling it better and > > handling it the way that I am handling it makes me appear > > nuts, then I realize that I may appear nuts, but only to > > those who will not look at what I have actually written. > > You can have all of your notions about what you think I > > write, and what you think I show, but until you go through > > the time it takes to look at the material, you are as > > ignorant as a tree's leftover stump. > > > > You have read enough only to know what I have written of > > you. But there are in fact, laugh if you must, two Leesas, > > and one of them denied being you. Well that's fine, but > > the reason why I was looking at "her" was because I was > > looking at "you" as based on not just your activity here, > > but your venomous posts in 2005 which seemed so out of > > balance, that I began doing searches on you. I never > > face-to-face knew someone named Leesa, but this other > > Leesa is in fact the person I believed you to be. Now, you > > say that you are not the same as her? Well, I don't know > > what to say about that. Will all the liars in the world, > > suddenly admit to lying so that we could just clear this > > whole thing up? Meanwhile, it was the other Leesa who was > > so adamant on removing the words on my website. It is her, > > who is called Leesa Magoch Johnson, who is actually the > > person I write of, and the features I describe are real, > > documented, distributed to third parties for archiving and > > so forth. If it is not you, then just sit back and relax. > > But how would you explain the difference between you and > > the other? Or for that matter, the sameness? I know > > face-to-face the name Magoch, its origins, as well as the > > person who the other Leesa is. I found her because of you, > > and would not have found her if you had not posted so > > virulently against me on the board in 2005. So I wondered, > > what is this Leesa all about that she would show up > > suddenly and have so much to say that is so ferocious? > > What is behind her energy of this? The only thing I know > > is that the email addresses are different, one that has a > > biography in the State of Iowa, seems to be you, and I > > could not find any particular identifiers putting you as > > other than a part time resident, or a part time animal > > control official, in a small town where people can cover > > each others' backs pretty darn well. Meanwhile, the person > > who the other Leesa is, has a combination of both Arizona > > as her alter ego location, and Idaho as her more ordinary > > bio. Is it my fault that some people decide that they > > don't want to be pinned down and made responsible, or > > recognized, for that matter, for acts of wrongdoing? It is > > a travesty. It is hellish to keep track of. And if > > publishing is the only way to get this thing this whole > > mess out into the open, then viva la web. By the way, the > > person I knew, who is the other Leesa, talked alot about > > wanting to be in Animal Control. How can I tell these > > apart? I asked the other Leesa to show me her drivers > > license, and she refused. Instead she sent me photos of > > the girl I believed she was and said they are of her. She > > had a website and gave me a link and that tied in with her > > long time best friend's site, not by link but by > > javascript. And, posts she made, some of them didn't come > > from Arizona, but from direct company assignment by > > Microsoft, at Microsoft's physical location. So, do I have > > a chore on my hands, do I have facts? Yes. Facts are not > > the same as answers. How do you explain that in the other, > > I found the one who seems to be you? By the way, it is not > > just anyone I am referring to, but the creator and leader > > of the entire Rocky Horror cult. > > > > What do people in that cult do? They put Jim down and make > > it look impossible for him to have been involved in RH, > > and they do it aggressively. Just because a blog comes > > along and says what it says, should not be a rule, but be > > a parenthesis. > > > > > > > > >And that sucks. > > > > It all sucks. > > > > > > > > >So many people very close > > > to me are just like you and frankly it scares me. > > > > You don't know anyone else like me. > > > > > > > > >I feel > > > sometimes like a 'marginal magnent'. A very close friend > > > of mine, VERY smart and interesting, had schizophrenia, > > > went off her meds and there was no saving her. Things > > > snowballed. I've never seen such a change in a person. It > > > was heatbreaking because I couldn't save her--she'd have > > > taken me down as well and I went down as far as I could > > > have. > > > > When someone is mentally ill, you know it. There is no > > taking down or going down or being down, there is the > > absence of reason meeting the tragedy of loss. > > > > > > > > > I can't figure you out. > > > > Why not show reasons why I should be able to figure you > > out instead, so that you could be ruled out and notated as > > the Leesa but not that Leesa? You don't have to know me, > > but as long as you don't give me what I need to know, you > > are on the site along with the other Leesa. Think of it as > > a TRW credit report. We have the data...show where it is > > wrong. Why are you on the site so closely guarding the > > identity of Richard Smith as Richard O'Brien as being the > > same as was in RH? Why are you guarding the interests of > > the other Leesa? > > Why are you disavowing all knowledge of the world we live > > in as complicated at the same time as having those > > interests? > > Why are you likening me to Mark David Chapman, when you > > know damned well that is a hostile deflection of guilt? In > > the past century so many patterns of liars have come out > > that make you seem like a cookie. > > > > Liars think that all they need to do is lie. They are > > different in their skills, but one method is to make > > several people of themselves, brazenly with one name > > perhaps, and say, oh no that's not me, meanwhile I think > > that someone is using another man's father to point to as > > someone to mourn when the other and real man is alive and > > well on some tropical island. Liars lie loud, they lie > > long, they lie with friends, they lie with enemies, and > > they lie with anger, and they lie with smiles. But its all > > lies, anyway. > > I've got more indications that I have the truth than you > > have denials to bring. > > > > As of this writing, there is only one person I know of who > > has fully studied my website. That is in the past two > > days, the family locale of the boyfriend I referred to in > > the posts concerning Benoit, below. Funny how things turn. > > The one who I have the most anxiety of for reactions, is > > the one who is most interested, and interested now. And > > you come up and give me this crap? Why not read what I > > write with some seriousness and do some favors for the > > truth in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > >What really bothers me is the > > > invented fiction you've supposedly created about me--you > > > have NO accurate information about me. No one from Rockman > > > ever has called me. I have no established alliances with > > > any posters. There is no 'free republic' or 'Daveed > > > website', false biography, photos from '78...I don't know > > > you; you never have contacted me about photos, I don't > > > even know what the hell a java script is, snazzy or > > > otherwise--you've never supported me (no one has, except > > > my parents when I was a minor years ago). > > > Also, you never phoned me the night of John Lennon's > > > murder--I was overseas living with a family that had no > > > phone--in fact, I first learned that Lennon had been > > > 'shot' at 8am at work--didn't know that he'd actually been > > > killed until I went home for lunch that so that means to > > > me that: > > > > I have the evidence that I have and it has your name on > > it. > > It also has the area of your interest here and your > > personality. So you are writing rubbish nonsense and false > > denials. Relax, you aren't in court. I don't need your > > false alibi. Maybe someone else named Leesa was overseas. > > "There are too many men making too many problems, and not > > much love to go 'round"--Phil Collins, "Land Of Confusion" > > 1987. > > > > > > > > > > > 1) You have me confused with someone else > > > 2) You're deliberately and maliciously lying > > > 3) You're so impaired that you don't realise what's going > > > on. > > > > Someone who is innocent has an entirely different tack > > than yours. It is easy to sniff out a liar, they are the > > ones who attack the ones who they should instead implore. > > The other Leesa tried the imploring, and in the > > correspondence gave me the evidence harder than I had even > > before. Slam dunk. > > > > > > > > > > > I truly hope you haven't actually wasted the amount of > > > time on me that you claim because it's all sadly VERY > > > wasted, judging from the accuracy conveyed by you. > > > > Lots of accuracy, and lots of smoke in the way of others > > to see it because it is accurate. Desperation knows > > insults. You are both desperate and insulting. > > > > > > > > > People aren't put off by you're 'philosophical > > > challenges', but you're blatatent lies. > > > > I don't write lies. > > > > > > > There's a huge difference that does really matter. > > > I really do like you in a strange way; but you're > > > channeled completely wrong. > > > > You don't have to like me. I don't need the conning from > > you. > > > > > > > I really do wish you all the best because you seem have so > > > much to offer--but we have to find a way for you to > > > understand why people hate you--and trust me dear, it's > > > not your voice... > > > > Well, hell, I know that. But you don't have to be so > > damned nice to make you seem so damned honest when you are > > lying in every direction known to the wind. You are just > > experimenting for the right effect. > > > > Let me make this perfectly clear. Those who don't want to > > read the website are not being compelled to. I don't link > > it here. Others know how and where to find it. I did not > > organize it to be obvious. The part where there is history > > and information about others are in a virtual book called > > "What Happened To Rocky Horror" which is on one page of > > the website, and is a page that takes an estimated five > > hours to read. Those with a greater interest in its > > content than on the information about Jim Cypherd and Jim > > Steinman that I write on the website seek out this volume > > and highlight it above all else. Somehow, they find it. > > But they won't be in discussion about any of the content > > about Jim. So, in proportion, there is so much evidence of > > all things that I write, that they would stop others from > > reading, and I don't write a thing that I am not > > satisfied, journalistically trained, to be accurate. > > > > I do have another website which people don't want to know > > most of the time and has nothing to do with any of this. > > I'll show that to you. It shows that I do not involve > > myself on the topic of RH exclusively, or the topic of Jim > > exclusively, and that it has no other role here but to > > show the other and wider dimensions of myself. In this > > website, others are discussed. People like Stanley > > Milgram, John Kerry, and even members of my family, past, > > present, and extended. You won't find mention of Jim > > anywhere on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > | |
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