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Leesa (gallytrotter#mchsi.com) 02:52 am UTC 06/30/07 |
| In reply to: | re: Hello...hello....hello....(simulated echo sound) - pidunk 01:51 am UTC 06/30/07 |
| Susan, You have THE WRONG PERSON. Why waste my time tit for tatting nonsense that has nothing to do with me? You never called me December 1980 in Derbyshire at 6am to discuss Lennon's murder. I have no idea who Magoch is--and if the leader of the Rocky Horror cult's named Leesa, it's just an amusing coincidence--sorry you wasted your time, but it's not me. I mean, I loved Rocky Horror--why should I deny being involved? I can't reply line for line to these posts because when I do and post, only the original is reprinted--too much a waste of my time so I don't bother. Susan, your accusations were so off and outrageous several pages back that I just didn't bother to respond. I mean if you're convinced I'm the man in the moon, I won't change your mind--what's the point? And I am serious--you do have alot of creativity but you have a great deal of trouble separating fact from fiction and admitting you're wrong without hard concrete proof--I'm just telling you straight up that the person you're convinced is me isn't me. It's frustrating and maddening to be accused of ridiculous things you know nothing about or had nothing to do with and I can't be bothered dredging up 25 yr old documents proving where I was when. And how else do I prove/disprove what? I've had 3 internet servers sinced 1999--MSN, AOL, and now the local cable provider. Only addresses/serves/ISP-things I've ever used. Trace me--go ahead--piece of cake. I'm not computer savvy in the least--ask any of the Rockman folks--ask JD!--who were around when I first got on the net Thanksgiving, 1999. Rockman was the first site I was ever on. Just put your energies into something constructive because I'm a waste of time--I'm the wrong person! Look--I'll throw you one last bone--if there is something I can prove relatively easily on my part to convince you I'm not who you think, run it past me and I will try. This is just really confusing. Leesa > Go back to the posts you should have objected to, and be > specific. "No" and "not" are negatives, and you can't > prove a negative. Go ahead, tell me and everyone why you > took this all so far out of context that it is on several > pages back? And why are you even muddling the things I > said here? Muddling, Mudding, confusing, another set of > patterned deceptions. You may be on the side of those who > train others not to know fact from lies, but I know the > difference. And I also know how to show it. If you have > truth, you will be intellectually stronger in your > arguments than I can be. Meanwhile all you have so far is > desperation and insult, derision and confusion. They may > have worked for you before, but they can't work for you > here. > > > > > Completely wrong person, wrong place, wrong time. I don't > > know who the fuck Richard Smith is, I was overseas with a > > maiden name for the 2 yr period she claims to have called > > me--my god, it goes on and on. Never lived in Arizona , > > Montana, nor was I ever/wanted to be in Animal Control. > > I believe Susan has NOT won the dining room set tonight! > > She's hateful, inaccurate, confused. And just what WERE my > > interests back in 1980? Who the hell remembers? I don't! > > Leesa > > > > > > > > > > > > Susan, > > > > I'm gonna break my 'don't feed the sick troll' rule once. > > > > > > And I will break my "don't reply to Leesa rule" here. > > > > > > > In your sorry defence I must say that you are a very > > > > entertaining individual who has perhaps more creativity > > > > than most states' populous combined. > > > > > > I honestly don't. But I guess at times of stress I have > > > the crucial sense of humor. > > > > > > > > > >The 'muse', or > > > > whatever it is, certainly has infused you. You are > > > > actually a guilty pleasure of mine in the way some people > > > > devour romance novels...if you'd re-reined half of the > > > > energy you've put into your website ramblings alone, you > > > > really could have impacted the world in an amazingly > > > > positive way. > > > > > > Actually some people may prefer I place my energy here > > > than elsewhere, because my other website is a doozy. > > > > > > > > > > I have no idea what you've been hospitalised for in the > > > > past or the exact nature of your disorder, but it truly is > > > > sad you can't get your proverbial shit together. > > > > > > Yes indeed, this is something that troubles me as well. As > > > I've explained rather, er, imaginatively you say, but > > > factually in real, my life has certain unique features and > > > difficulties not of my own making nor control. And, not of > > > sickness, but impedements. I don't expect you to > > > understand, not the details per se, but surely you must > > > have some insight that some lives are inherently more > > > complicated than others. I'm not a "Drew Barrymore" with > > > drug problems like she has had, that I must overcome. I am > > > not a mental defective, mentally ill person. But demands > > > are placed on my stamina to think and to live, on a > > > persistent basis. My ability to "get my shit together" is > > > directly proportional with a combination of the effects of > > > my heart condition, and the reductions of impetus of > > > outsiders to shove their necks into my business. > > > > > > > > > > > > >Because > > > > you're really very interesting. And it's obvious that Jim, > > > > Richard O'Brien, and others have really impacted you on > > > > alot of levels. > > > > > > Actually all this is a big pain in the ass. > > > > > > > > > >They've impacted me as well. > > > > I'm going out on an unpopular limb here and say that > > > > you're really one of the most intelligent, intriguing > > > > people that have posted here in 10 years. > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > But you're nuts. > > > > > > Uh, well, no, but I eat nuts. Does that mean that I am > > > what I eat? Hmmmm.....what I am is put upon, imposed on, > > > by these circumstances that I rather did not exist, but > > > finding them urges me to counter for lack of another > > > possibility to acquiesce. Is it something I expected? No, > > > is it something I like? No. Do I wish that I knew how to > > > handle it better? Yes. But if handling it better and > > > handling it the way that I am handling it makes me appear > > > nuts, then I realize that I may appear nuts, but only to > > > those who will not look at what I have actually written. > > > You can have all of your notions about what you think I > > > write, and what you think I show, but until you go through > > > the time it takes to look at the material, you are as > > > ignorant as a tree's leftover stump. > > > > > > You have read enough only to know what I have written of > > > you. But there are in fact, laugh if you must, two Leesas, > > > and one of them denied being you. Well that's fine, but > > > the reason why I was looking at "her" was because I was > > > looking at "you" as based on not just your activity here, > > > but your venomous posts in 2005 which seemed so out of > > > balance, that I began doing searches on you. I never > > > face-to-face knew someone named Leesa, but this other > > > Leesa is in fact the person I believed you to be. Now, you > > > say that you are not the same as her? Well, I don't know > > > what to say about that. Will all the liars in the world, > > > suddenly admit to lying so that we could just clear this > > > whole thing up? Meanwhile, it was the other Leesa who was > > > so adamant on removing the words on my website. It is her, > > > who is called Leesa Magoch Johnson, who is actually the > > > person I write of, and the features I describe are real, > > > documented, distributed to third parties for archiving and > > > so forth. If it is not you, then just sit back and relax. > > > But how would you explain the difference between you and > > > the other? Or for that matter, the sameness? I know > > > face-to-face the name Magoch, its origins, as well as the > > > person who the other Leesa is. I found her because of you, > > > and would not have found her if you had not posted so > > > virulently against me on the board in 2005. So I wondered, > > > what is this Leesa all about that she would show up > > > suddenly and have so much to say that is so ferocious? > > > What is behind her energy of this? The only thing I know > > > is that the email addresses are different, one that has a > > > biography in the State of Iowa, seems to be you, and I > > > could not find any particular identifiers putting you as > > > other than a part time resident, or a part time animal > > > control official, in a small town where people can cover > > > each others' backs pretty darn well. Meanwhile, the person > > > who the other Leesa is, has a combination of both Arizona > > > as her alter ego location, and Idaho as her more ordinary > > > bio. Is it my fault that some people decide that they > > > don't want to be pinned down and made responsible, or > > > recognized, for that matter, for acts of wrongdoing? It is > > > a travesty. It is hellish to keep track of. And if > > > publishing is the only way to get this thing this whole > > > mess out into the open, then viva la web. By the way, the > > > person I knew, who is the other Leesa, talked alot about > > > wanting to be in Animal Control. How can I tell these > > > apart? I asked the other Leesa to show me her drivers > > > license, and she refused. Instead she sent me photos of > > > the girl I believed she was and said they are of her. She > > > had a website and gave me a link and that tied in with her > > > long time best friend's site, not by link but by > > > javascript. And, posts she made, some of them didn't come > > > from Arizona, but from direct company assignment by > > > Microsoft, at Microsoft's physical location. So, do I have > > > a chore on my hands, do I have facts? Yes. Facts are not > > > the same as answers. How do you explain that in the other, > > > I found the one who seems to be you? By the way, it is not > > > just anyone I am referring to, but the creator and leader > > > of the entire Rocky Horror cult. > > > > > > What do people in that cult do? They put Jim down and make > > > it look impossible for him to have been involved in RH, > > > and they do it aggressively. Just because a blog comes > > > along and says what it says, should not be a rule, but be > > > a parenthesis. > > > > > > > > > > > > >And that sucks. > > > > > > It all sucks. > > > > > > > > > > > > >So many people very close > > > > to me are just like you and frankly it scares me. > > > > > > You don't know anyone else like me. > > > > > > > > > > > > >I feel > > > > sometimes like a 'marginal magnent'. A very close friend > > > > of mine, VERY smart and interesting, had schizophrenia, > > > > went off her meds and there was no saving her. Things > > > > snowballed. I've never seen such a change in a person. It > > > > was heatbreaking because I couldn't save her--she'd have > > > > taken me down as well and I went down as far as I could > > > > have. > > > > > > When someone is mentally ill, you know it. There is no > > > taking down or going down or being down, there is the > > > absence of reason meeting the tragedy of loss. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't figure you out. > > > > > > Why not show reasons why I should be able to figure you > > > out instead, so that you could be ruled out and notated as > > > the Leesa but not that Leesa? You don't have to know me, > > > but as long as you don't give me what I need to know, you > > > are on the site along with the other Leesa. Think of it as > > > a TRW credit report. We have the data...show where it is > > > wrong. Why are you on the site so closely guarding the > > > identity of Richard Smith as Richard O'Brien as being the > > > same as was in RH? Why are you guarding the interests of > > > the other Leesa? > > > Why are you disavowing all knowledge of the world we live > > > in as complicated at the same time as having those > > > interests? > > > Why are you likening me to Mark David Chapman, when you > > > know damned well that is a hostile deflection of guilt? In > > > the past century so many patterns of liars have come out > > > that make you seem like a cookie. > > > > > > Liars think that all they need to do is lie. They are > > > different in their skills, but one method is to make > > > several people of themselves, brazenly with one name > > > perhaps, and say, oh no that's not me, meanwhile I think > > > that someone is using another man's father to point to as > > > someone to mourn when the other and real man is alive and > > > well on some tropical island. Liars lie loud, they lie > > > long, they lie with friends, they lie with enemies, and > > > they lie with anger, and they lie with smiles. But its all > > > lies, anyway. > > > I've got more indications that I have the truth than you > > > have denials to bring. > > > > > > As of this writing, there is only one person I know of who > > > has fully studied my website. That is in the past two > > > days, the family locale of the boyfriend I referred to in > > > the posts concerning Benoit, below. Funny how things turn. > > > The one who I have the most anxiety of for reactions, is > > > the one who is most interested, and interested now. And > > > you come up and give me this crap? Why not read what I > > > write with some seriousness and do some favors for the > > > truth in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >What really bothers me is the > > > > invented fiction you've supposedly created about me--you > > > > have NO accurate information about me. No one from Rockman > > > > ever has called me. I have no established alliances with > > > > any posters. There is no 'free republic' or 'Daveed > > > > website', false biography, photos from '78...I don't know > > > > you; you never have contacted me about photos, I don't > > > > even know what the hell a java script is, snazzy or > > > > otherwise--you've never supported me (no one has, except > > > > my parents when I was a minor years ago). > > > > Also, you never phoned me the night of John Lennon's > > > > murder--I was overseas living with a family that had no > > > > phone--in fact, I first learned that Lennon had been > > > > 'shot' at 8am at work--didn't know that he'd actually been > > > > killed until I went home for lunch that so that means to > > > > me that: > > > > > > I have the evidence that I have and it has your name on > > > it. > > > It also has the area of your interest here and your > > > personality. So you are writing rubbish nonsense and false > > > denials. Relax, you aren't in court. I don't need your > > > false alibi. Maybe someone else named Leesa was overseas. > > > "There are too many men making too many problems, and not > > > much love to go 'round"--Phil Collins, "Land Of Confusion" > > > 1987. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) You have me confused with someone else > > > > 2) You're deliberately and maliciously lying > > > > 3) You're so impaired that you don't realise what's going > > > > on. > > > > > > Someone who is innocent has an entirely different tack > > > than yours. It is easy to sniff out a liar, they are the > > > ones who attack the ones who they should instead implore. > > > The other Leesa tried the imploring, and in the > > > correspondence gave me the evidence harder than I had even > > > before. Slam dunk. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I truly hope you haven't actually wasted the amount of > > > > time on me that you claim because it's all sadly VERY > > > > wasted, judging from the accuracy conveyed by you. > > > > > > Lots of accuracy, and lots of smoke in the way of others > > > to see it because it is accurate. Desperation knows > > > insults. You are both desperate and insulting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > People aren't put off by you're 'philosophical > > > > challenges', but you're blatatent lies. > > > > > > I don't write lies. > > > > > > > > > > There's a huge difference that does really matter. > > > > I really do like you in a strange way; but you're > > > > channeled completely wrong. > > > > > > You don't have to like me. I don't need the conning from > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > I really do wish you all the best because you seem have so > > > > much to offer--but we have to find a way for you to > > > > understand why people hate you--and trust me dear, it's > > > > not your voice... > > > > > > Well, hell, I know that. But you don't have to be so > > > damned nice to make you seem so damned honest when you are > > > lying in every direction known to the wind. You are just > > > experimenting for the right effect. > > > > > > Let me make this perfectly clear. Those who don't want to > > > read the website are not being compelled to. I don't link > > > it here. Others know how and where to find it. I did not > > > organize it to be obvious. The part where there is history > > > and information about others are in a virtual book called > > > "What Happened To Rocky Horror" which is on one page of > > > the website, and is a page that takes an estimated five > > > hours to read. Those with a greater interest in its > > > content than on the information about Jim Cypherd and Jim > > > Steinman that I write on the website seek out this volume > > > and highlight it above all else. Somehow, they find it. > > > But they won't be in discussion about any of the content > > > about Jim. So, in proportion, there is so much evidence of > > > all things that I write, that they would stop others from > > > reading, and I don't write a thing that I am not > > > satisfied, journalistically trained, to be accurate. > > > > > > I do have another website which people don't want to know > > > most of the time and has nothing to do with any of this. > > > I'll show that to you. It shows that I do not involve > > > myself on the topic of RH exclusively, or the topic of Jim > > > exclusively, and that it has no other role here but to > > > show the other and wider dimensions of myself. In this > > > website, others are discussed. People like Stanley > > > Milgram, John Kerry, and even members of my family, past, > > > present, and extended. You won't find mention of Jim > > > anywhere on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > | |
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